[meteorite-list] Meteorite Digest Volume 131 Issue 19 (and a personal note)

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 21:13:28 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW_hxO+nLQG1PWLq3636kb9tW7Td82LuYMgQ6EvggHfWBQ_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Friends, Listees, and Innocent Bystanders,

I would hope that nobody is suggesting that Art's Met-List and
Facebook should compete with each other or that they are mutually
exclusive. Instead, they are like chocolate and peanut butter. They
go well together. It may not be for everybody and nobody should feel
like they are missing something if they do not care for that type of
online experience.

How many of us still enjoy a good old fashioned book? I do. I will
take a paper book over an electronic "e-book" any day. I still like
those dwindling dealers who send out snail mail offerings. Who
doesn't like getting that envelope in the mail with a list of the
latest specimens? It's a dying thing in the digital age. Our
grandkids will not know what the tick of a mechanical clock sounds
like. Winding a wrist-watch. The national anthem and test pattern
sound when a TV station goes off the air at 3:00am. Those are all
things that are going quietly into that long night of fading memories
in white-haired heads. I will miss those things.

I do not want Art's Met-List to ever go away. I want it to continue
going forever. I want his kids and grandkids to take it over and keep
it running. Some of you probably will not reciprocate, but I want to
keep knowing all of you, hearing about your latest collection
acquisitions, sharing Tucson stories, solving a good meteorite mystery
(Katol anyone?), and good-natured fooling around (not the malicious
stuff). Sure, we can do all of that on Facebook, but it's not the
same. Sure, digital MP3 is "better" than vinyl, but it's not the
*same*.

Facebook is great for certain things. If you somebody doesn't like it, fine.

The Met-List is great for certain things - if somebody does not like
the Met-List, then I have a problem with that. LOL. Seriously, I do.

Love or hate, Facebook, that's OK. But always love the Met-List.
Even those of you who don't like me, I'd rather be here with all of
you, than see this List ever go away. ;)

If the NSA wants to eavesdrop on me. Fine. They can listen till
their ears fall off. They can read my emails and messages until their
eyes pop out. All they will hear is me bitching about how I cannot
afford a big specimen of this meteorite or that meteorite. They will
hear me conjecture about what petrologic type a new fall might be
(Katol anyone?). They will hear exactly how much I paid for that
batch of unclassified stones. They will see who I buy micromounts
from. I could go on and on, but I won't here. But I do in private,
and the NSA would be bored to death. My private ramblings might drive
an analyst to a migraine and a hard drink.

Ok, I am off my soapbox. Please continue with the regularly-scheduled
programming. :)

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 3/14/14, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> Since you don't participate on Facebook, you have no idea what is discussed
> on there.......
> With instant photos uploaded whenever you want. Have something to sell,
> upload a photo, on a hunting trip, upload a photo or a thousand of them into
> an album. Everyone can flow in real time. Last year during my Chelyabinsk
> hunt in Mother Russia, I could make finds and have photos and videos playing
> around the world in a few seconds, people were seeing my 1.2 kilo meteorite
> find pretty much as soon as I did, uploaded videos on the spot and my wife
> could see my meteorite from the other side of the world as I was picking it
> up.
>
> It is social media, not only to be used for gladiator politics (my favorite)
> or endless kittens but also scientific use as well. I was updating my google
> earth strew field map on the spot as finds were made and sharing it with
> scientists back in USA who were helping tell me where to hunt! Live.
>
> Somehow I highly doubt the NSA is really that interested in some American
> living in Costa Rica unless your income is being augmented via nefarious
> means and you like to talk about it. And NSA can access any type of
> electronic media, Facebook is hardly their limit.
> Both mediums of communication are useful. Perhaps try Facebook before you
> assume what is going on there.
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Kevin Kichinka <marsrox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Team Meteorite:
>>
>>
>> A little (no,a lot) off-topic, but I need some help celebrating an
>> important personal moment.
>>
>>
>> I will comment on that first, then about the last 'edition' of the
>> meteorite-list.
>>
>>
>> While I am proud to be an American and always will carry that
>> passport, the small Central American nation of Costa Rica is where I
>> prefer to live. I like to climb to the edge of gently erupting
>> volcanoes, trek through deep green forest where the sky-scraping trees
>> are the theater for a concert of rare bird song, while living among
>> gentle people who live for adventure.
>>
>>
>> The women are really hot, too.
>>
>>
>> Back story - It's been twenty-nine years since I first stepped foot
>> here, twice since 1990 that I've jumped the high hoops to become a
>> 'Rentista' (a type of provisional resident) so I could stay here,
>> although with stipulations. After some years of maintaining that
>> status, one can apply to be a 'permanent resident', and its been ten
>> months since I applied to live here forever. It's 'home' now. Were
>> there no problems, I should have achieved this status last September.
>> There were no problems, I just needed a bureaucrat's signature. In
>> January I petitioned the Supreme Court to force a decision.
>>
>> Moments ago, this message arrived from my attorney, Lic. JJ Valerio....
>>
>>
>> "Hello Kevin,
>>
>> Very good news, you are now a Permanent Resident in Costa Rica. I went
>> to Immigration today and I got the resolution. I hope you be on time
>> with the payments of the CCSS because we will need it to get the new
>> Residency ID."
>>
>>
>> ****************************************************
>> I'm very happy about this.
>>
>>
>> But while I'm a mile of smiles chuckling at the intensity of 'the
>> moment', there's more,  because just before this email arrived, I read
>> the last 'digest' of the m-list. I got sentimental.
>>
>>
>> Note to Team Meteorite - For privacy reasons (see 'NSA'), I don't
>> participate in FaceBook.
>>
>>
>> I was immediately spell-bound reading Alan Rubin's riveting discussion
>> of the origins of CK's, and his conclusion of no separate parent body.
>> Alan has helped me many times during days past when I contributed to
>> 'Meteorite' and that help is not forgotten. I read his article twice
>> to make sure I understood it. Fantastic!
>>
>>
>> I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.
>>
>>
>> I have not yet had the privilege of working or exchanging messages
>> with Carl Agee, who's attitude (and love?) of mets I perceive to be
>> like some collector-genius. His dissertation of 'UNG's' and Mercury
>> meteorites was like everything else he contributes to this venue, it
>> increased my knowledge in the field. Perfect.
>>
>>
>> I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.
>>
>>
>> Mike G has evolved to become a 'voice', an 'opinion leader' and
>> tonight he asks relevant questions that merge the lines between
>> collectors and researchers about pairings of a strange orphan met
>> 'without a home' wondering why it is so darn expensive!
>>
>>
>> Super Sonny shares another one of his incredible US finds, a
>> scattering of OC's using dice in situ for size comparison -he rolled
>> all Lucky Sevens , not a 'Snake Eyes' in sight- and Paul Gessler
>> offers a witty comment calling it 'desert pavement'.
>>
>>
>> Bob Verish, Tom Randall and even 'Steve Arnold (Chicago) make guest
>> appearances 'this issue', not to forget relative 'newbie' Shawn Alan.
>>
>>
>> But the list would be lifeless without the spirit of Herr Bernd
>> Pauley, the guiding light of meteorite collectors worldwide. And here
>> he is tonight, all 69 years of him, sitting in his rocker, a comforter
>> in his lap, wife Pauline shuffling into the living room offering a cup
>> of hot chocolate stirred with a cinamon stick, Bernd sits in front of
>> the fireplace tapping out his message to us on a iPad  ("Will you
>> still need me, will you still feed me...")
>>
>>
>> I would be remiss not to mention the almost twenty years (!?) that my
>> best buddy and fellow Nakhla Noogie Ron Baalke has served our
>> community with constant updates on the American space mission. Thanks
>> to Ron, we have all journeyed to Mars, starting with the first lander,
>> Pathfinder, on July 4, 1997. We crossed our fingers while another
>> spacecraft neared Comet Temple, another craft succesfully inspecting
>> 4Vesta.... we've gone just about everywhere together in the Solar
>> System thanks to Ron. That's something special. And he loves (dead)
>> dogs, too.
>>
>>
>> I doubt that such work is found on Facebook.
>>
>>
>> But I broke out in that LOL when Senor Garcia wondered who the heck
>> was 'Proud Tom'?
>>
>>
>> I know Ruben, but if I tell you I'll have to re-crystallize all your
>> L3.05 chondrites...
>>
>> Lastly, Art offers this venue that we all come out and play in. Long
>> may we play.
>>
>>
>> Bueno. Una fiesta ahora comenzar?n en mi casa en la celebraci?n de mi
>> residencia permanente en la hermosa Costa Rica.
>>
>>
>> (Good. A party now starts in my house in celebration of my permanent
>> residency in beautiful Costa Rica.)
>>
>>
>> Saludos a todos.
>>
>>
>> Jajajajajajajaja...............:>)
>>
>>
>> Kevin Kichinka
>>
>> Rio del Oro, Santa Ana, Costa Rica
>>
>> "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" an eBook on Amazon/Barnes and Noble
>>
>> "The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2015" available in December.
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