[meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:57:44 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <1392145064.28226.YahooMailNeo_at_web122006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend.? For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece.? That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market.


The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that.? It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even.? I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless.

I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get.? If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market.

Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show.

Adam
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?

Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud.
Please identify the scammer for us all.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes.? Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available.?
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> In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on.
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> Adam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Miller <astroroks at hotmail.com>
> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Cc: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
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> Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm
> 2010 $22.75/gm
> Dennis
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
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>> Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake.
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>> Michael Farmer
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay.
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Met-List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
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>>>
>>> I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name "nrscc" and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ...
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>>> Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud.
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html
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>>> Mendy Ouzillou
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