[meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

From: Jim Wooddell <jim.wooddell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 07:09:28 -0700
Message-ID: <534BEC18.6020404_at_suddenlink.net>

Hi Mike!

Any post that gets folks in a frenzy. However, this was response to Ruben.

Jim


On 4/13/2014 6:45 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
> Hey Jim just curious are you referring to my post here?
> When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it bugs
> me. It reminds me of the calling wolf syndrome.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jim Wooddell
> <jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net <mailto:jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ruben,
>
> I think Whetstone had far greater evidence of there being stones
> on the ground if I remember correctly.
> Didn't Jack find one very shortly after the fall? There were
> multiple camera captures, sonics and witnesses, both visual and
> audible.
>
> The sonics I refer to do include human witnesses but I tend to
> look for the sonic station reports if there are any.
> We certainly could use more sonic stations and that is used to
> back up and confirm the video records of the events.
>
> When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it
> bugs me. It reminds me of the calling wolf syndrome.
> I just do not like seeing people going on wild goose chases but I
> suppose if that floats their boat that's fine and not my concern.
> But when I am working an event I wont lead someone to think there
> is possibly something on the ground when I can't back that up.
> In the next day or so, the gurus will likely have a good idea on
> the trajectory of this meteor. There is a lot to consider.
> I like the idea of work smarter, not harder!
>
> So we still have the Tucson event....multiple camera captures,
> sonics and lots of witnesses. There ought to be 100 hunters out
> there looking.
> Nothing found to date.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 4/13/2014 4:06 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Jim it's pretty much the same with any meteor event. The truth is
> unless we have good Doppler information or someone personally
> witnessed a meteorite strike a house or a car, or there is a stone
> found - there's not much reason to waste time looking.
>
> Most people (me included) thought the Whetstone Mountains
> meteor event
> was not worth looking for - It took me over a month to even
> start the
> hunt. I wish I'd have started sooner.
>
> Also, the lack of Sonic reports may be due to the fact that it
> landed
> where no one lives and not that it didn't produce a sonic boom.
>
> I've been doing this a long time and I think the bottom line
> is this:
> If someone finds a meteorite, just one that went though a roof
> - most
> hunters would go try to find more - me included.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jim Wooddell
> <jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net
> <mailto:jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Shawn, This is a fairly normal event. Nothing much to
> get excited
> about. The calculation is an error. If the 40.8km is
> the burn out I
> doubt anyone will waste much time on this one.
> No sonic reports to speak of and that is also not a good
> sign. The UT is
> questionable too!
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/13/2014 12:57 PM, shawnalan at meteoritefalls.com
> <mailto:shawnalan at meteoritefalls.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Listers
>
> I found some info on the fall and here is some stats...
>
> vel 667.2 km/s beg 135.8 km end 40.8 km
>
> Now could a meteorite come from the Vel speed? I mean
> thats really fast
> 667.2km, or that could be a mistake, which I think it
> is? With the
> meteor ending at 40km there is a possibility there
> could be some stones
> on the ground. And after looking at the video I could
> see the meteor for
> around 4 seconds and at the end the meteor got brighter.
>
> more stats below...
>
> Shawn Alan
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> time 20140413 3.0738 hours
> lat 32 26 22.632 = 32.4396 deg
> lon 253 16 38.856 = 253.2775 deg
> ht 40.775 b -1.38207 7.62031 -17.37020 -7.68054
> alp 300.962 +/- 0.462 deg
> del 70.037 +/- 0.310 deg
> v_inf 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
> v_avg 667.240 +/- 977.292 km/s
> a -0.002 +/-
> 0.006 AU
> e 493.776 +/- 1444.978
> incl 85.761 +/- 3.793 deg
> omega 168.225 +/- 0.185 deg
> asc_node 22.922 +/- 0.000 deg
> v_g 667.102 +/- 977.428 km/s
> v_h 668.691 +/- 976.474 km/s
> alp_geo 301.065 +/- 0.482 deg
> del_geo 70.004 +/- 0.311 deg
> q_per 0.982 +/- 0.001 AU
> q_aph -0.986 +/- 0.011 AU
> lambda 30.964 +/- 1.513 deg
> beta 78.151 +/- 0.165 deg
> true anom 11.775 +/- 0.165 deg
>
> T_j hyp
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