[meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

From: The Earth's Memory <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:44:48 +0100
Message-ID: <EFEE4571F0E649E3A9B8400298B99823_at_TheEarthsMemory.local>

Carl,

 What honest man takes a crate from UPS and replaces the merchandise with
asphalt ?

  That is theft.

 if some of THESE specimens are sold on public sites that link to the
thieves accomplices, what is it ?

AND stealing a storage box (storage for witch we have invoices), asking
people to come at night ALONE and force them against their wish to give
valuables items, is it extortion or racketerring ? how do you call it ?

sorry if our English is so poor but in France these two events are
considered as major Crimes, when they are
premeditated and done in group, it triple the Court sentences.

Sincerely,

Bruno & Carine


----- Original Message -----
From: <cdtucson at cox.net>
To: "The Earth's Memory" <info at meteorite.fr>
Cc: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite
Collectionstollen !!!!


> Bruno and Carine,
> We have been friends for a long time and you two have always been a joy to
> visit with. I have nothing against you but, like Elton said. This is a
> civil (money) matter more than a criminal (jail) matter. A better word
> for you to use here is " leveraged" instead of "extortion". Too me it
> looks like they used leverage to collect a debt not extortion. They
> convinced you to offer up a bunch of your inventory as compensation for a
> debt you owed them ?
> Anybody that walked into Sean's room saw what was once your material
> because it was openly being marketed for sale. I know you know this
> because I saw you in meetings with Sean himself and he later told me he
> thought you were "pretty cool" but, he had nothing to do with your
> settlement with Braheem (sp).
> The time to cry " wolf" was during the show. Not weeks later and if these
> folks had access to your shipments their must have been a reason. If they
> had access they could argue the shipment belonged to them. Again, like
> Elton said, this sounds like a civil action where you would need to sue
> them but, to claim theft in the United States you are presumed innocent
> until proven guilty.
> You are yourself at risk of a libel law suit being filed against you and I
> would think all of you will piss away a lot of money on lawyers.
> I hope you guys work this out and clear each others good names.
> Best to all,
> Carl
> --
> Cheers
>
> ---- The Earth's Memory <info at meteorite.fr> wrote:
>> Carl,
>>
>> please send us the list of these people, witnesses are always welcome.
>>
>> Wow, he told you that he has half of our material ? thank you for your
>> testimony.
>>
>> Anybody has pictures of that exposed collection ?
>>
>> If you had more than your house value as retainer you would be very
>> cooperative beleive us,
>> we even had to give some Museum labels .... .
>>
>> Past debt obligations ? please show any paperwork.
>>
>> If "he is caught there" and has nothing to see why he doesn't answer us
>> nor
>> write us that he's innocent ?
>>
>> and as for the delay, 12 days for the crate to come back to France, the
>> investigations and been able to have
>> enough strong written evidences and witnesses takes time you know.
>>
>> This is one of the biggest robbery in the meteorites history, we are the
>> victims and you try to tell us that we
>> shouldn't be on the list ?
>>
>> Don't worry, that should be resolved strongly.
>>
>> Bruno & Carine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <cdtucson at cox.net>
>> To: "Don Merchant" <dmerchan at rochester.rr.com>;
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc: <imca at imcamail.de>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite
>> Collectionstollen !!!!
>>
>>
>> > List,
>> > This is very confusing. The Tucson show ended nearly a month ago on
>> > Feb.
>> > 18th. Why the long wait to make claims????
>> > Anyone at the show already saw much of this material being sold by Sean
>> > and he and Bruno were very friendly with each other at the time. I saw
>> > them meeting and discussing identification and pricing of this
>> > material.
>> > Bruno had half or this material for sale and Sean had the other half
>> > for
>> > sale. In other words it was explained to me that they had made a deal
>> > in
>> > exchange for past debt obligations Bruno had with Sean's partner. Sean
>> > explained this to anyone interested . I could give you a list of people
>> > Sean told this to. He had made a legitimate deal with Bruno.
>> > This seems like somebody is doing dirty laundry in public and has no
>> > business on this list. At least not until resolved. There is always two
>> > sides to every story. Sean may be caught in the middle here but, I know
>> > him to be an honest man.
>> > Carl
>> > meteoritemax
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > ---- Don Merchant <dmerchan at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> Holy Smokes!!! Looking over the list of stolen meteorites, many of
>> >> those
>> >> individual pieces are worth 5X more then my collection of 12 years!!!
>> >> There
>> >> has to be several hundred thousand dollars or more lost/stolen on
>> >> this!
>> >> How
>> >> in the name of Mary did anyone get away with all that inventory!? I am
>> >> speechless, thankful I only have to type. Where was the security,
>> >> laser
>> >> alarms and Uzzi! I am very sorry to see and hear this. This is
>> >> incredible.
>> >> Hopefully this will help create better measures on security because
>> >> this
>> >> boggles my mind!
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely
>> >> Don Merchant
>> >> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
>> >> www.ctreasurescwonders.com
>> >> IMCA #0960
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "The Earth's Memory" <info at meteorite.fr>
>> >> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> >> Cc: <imca at imcamail.de>
>> >> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 6:35 PM
>> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite
>> >> Collectionstollen !!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Dear list Members,
>> >> >
>> >> > it is with consternation that we annouce you that we have been
>> >> > victims of extortion at the beginning of the Tucson show
>> >> > and finaly totaly robbed at the end of the Tucson show.
>> >> >
>> >> > Fortunatly the criminals have been iddentified and one have admited
>> >> > that he has the material. For security and procedure raison we will
>> >> > not
>> >> > disclose their names at that time nor the circumstances, we can just
>> >> > tell
>> >> > you that two are Americans and one is Morrocan.
>> >> >
>> >> > We and the Police have enough evidences and witnesses, that will
>> >> > lead
>> >> > the
>> >> > criminal team to be
>> >> > punished by the full power of the Law.
>> >> >
>> >> > We offered them to give back the material and we would not press
>> >> > charges,
>> >> > but it seems that they are not cooperating.
>> >> > The French Police will involve FBI and INTERPOL in the next days as
>> >> > they
>> >> > don't return our inventory intact and at no cost NOW.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a rapid list of what have been stolen and extorqued:
>> >> > http://www.meteorite.fr/en/stolen.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > this list is still partial as we are working on it, there are many
>> >> > fossils
>> >> > too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many of you know that these specimens are our and saw them in our
>> >> > room
>> >> > or
>> >> > on our web site for years,
>> >> > please have a close look on that list, some specimens might be
>> >> > already
>> >> > for
>> >> > sell somewhere.
>> >> >
>> >> > We ask any Dealer, Collector or Curator to be very carefull.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you have been proposed any suspicious specimens, please report it
>> >> > to
>> >> > us
>> >> > or Eric Twelker off list.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any help would be very much appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best from France,
>> >> >
>> >> > Bruno & Carine
>> >> > La Memoire de la Terre
>> >> > The Earth's Memory
>> >> > France
>> >> > www.meteorite.fr
>> >> >
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