[meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

From: Jodie Reynolds <spacerocks_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:56:37 -0700
Message-ID: <545152485.20130312185637_at_spaceballoon.org>

Hello Shawn,

I'm not sure I see how it impacts religion all that greatly (in
general) - and probably don't care much.

Where I really differ is that "science is going to hush it up" - not
on your life. The group who breaks _real_ related science is going
to be rolling in more money than Capt. Kirk. Scientists don't work
that way - funding is always paramount. Being first to publish is
the be-all-end-all. Publish or Perish. And being known as the one
to first break that news and rewrite every science book in existence
for all of eternity would be entirely too tempting for anyone to take
a pass on it. If I were certain I had that in-hand, I'd publish in a
heartbeat.

--- Jodie

Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:45:20 PM, you wrote:

> I would say Mc kays theory is more plausible than Wickramasing.
> Mckay does make some good points, but in science, its about proof,
> and I think for the next 50 years or longer, science will keep it
> hush hush and on the lid if there is really life on Mars, because once that
> is out in the open, there goes religion, well some, that are based
> around the "all mighty being". But at any rate, I do enjoys Mckays theory,
> his makes since, but other scientist have argued that the fossil
> remains can be synthesized in the lab. Well anything can be synthesized in the
> lab today :). However, without these crazy ideas about life in
> meteorites, or fossils in Martian stones, where would we be with science in
> meteoritics. If I do remember correctly, stones falling from space
> was blasphemous,?you would be shunned in the science world around the 1700's
> for even trying to suggest that. It all comes down to timing,
> technology and the meteorite that has life :)

> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> ebay store
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> http://meteoritefalls.com/


> ________________________________
> From: Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
> To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; Galactic Stone &
> Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Groetz <mpg4444 at gmail.com>; Meteorite List
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

> Really!? I didn't think anybody believed McKay's thoroughly debunked theory
> any more.

> http://www.space.com/18414-mars-meteorite-life-arctic-rocks-qanda.html

> Phil Whitmer

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
> To: "Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>; "Galactic
> Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mike Groetz" <mpg4444 at gmail.com>; "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils
> inFireballFragments


>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> I haven't read Wickramasinge. I do hold stock in panspermic theory. In
>> particular, the findings of water, amino acids, etc. in the meteorites I
>> mentioned. The NASA/JPL paper "New Evidence of Life Forms in Martian
>> Meteorites" descibing and illustrating what seven of their best have
>> concluded are life forms in Nakhla and AH84001 was particularly convincing
>> to me.
>>
>> That SUV sized lab that we spent a few hundred million to put on Mars, was
>> sent there for the admitted purpose of solving our disagreement for us.
>> You may have watched and listened to the first report of Curiosity's
>> findings today streamed on the web. The Nasa team was about to pee their
>> pants having the opportunity to confirm that in the first drilling of a
>> rock on Mars, they have proven an environment existed that would have
>> beeen amiable to life.
>>
>> It will get better....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Guido
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>>>Sent: Mar 12, 2013 9:42 AM
>>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>><meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>Cc: Mike Groetz <mpg4444 at gmail.com>, Meteorite List
>>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils
>>>inFireballFragments
>>>
>>>Hello Count,
>>>
>>>All that stuff has been debunked long ago, no need to beat dead? horses.
>>>That is unless some new evidence has been discovered. If you have new
>>>evidence, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>>Seriously, you think the work of Chandra Wickramasinghe is worthy of
>>>discussion? Please proceed.....
>>>
>>>Phil Whitmer
>>>Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; "Joshua Tree
>>>Earth & Space Museum" <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>>>Cc: "Mike Groetz" <mpg4444 at gmail.com>; "Meteorite List"
>>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:32 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils
>>>inFireballFragments
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> Meteorite Mike has said ".. are hereby suspended..." and Phil wrote
>>>> "..too
>>>> dumb to discuss.."
>>>>
>>>> Darn. I was hoping to sell my Nakhla, Murchison and Allende specimens,
>>>> to
>>>> mention just a few.
>>>>
>>>> Wait till all those guys and gals, with the three letters after their
>>>> names, engaged in writing and publishing papers supporting the presence
>>>> of
>>>> fossilized nano-bacteria, biomorphs and elements that postulate
>>>> pansermia,
>>>> find out that their work "is too dumb to discuss"!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Count Deiro
>>>> IMCA 3536
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>>Sent: Mar 12, 2013 7:59 AM
>>>>>To: Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>Cc: Mike Groetz <mpg4444 at gmail.com>, Meteorite List
>>>>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in
>>>>>FireballFragments
>>>>>
>>>>>All ancient life-bearing meteorites, diatom-bearing meteorites,
>>>>>red-rain particles, and panspermia chondrites are hereby suspended
>>>>>until further notice....
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/12/13, Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum <dorifry at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> Too dumb to even discuss!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Whitmer
>>>>>> Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mike Groetz" <mpg4444 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:17 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in
>>>>>> FireballFragments
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.technologyreview.com/view/512381/astrobiologists-find-ancient-fossils-in-fireball-fragments/
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 Jodie                            mailto:spacerocks at spaceballoon.org

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