[meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:58:56 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW8R5jqAS5YhNqwU-PbqSDuzsSom-dmUCvTat+FtHQP8FQ_at_mail.gmail.com>

I was not referring to Adam.


On 3/3/13, Ed Deckert <edeckert at triad.rr.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Adam is running his business in a most ethical and desirable way. His
> efforts add even more value and importance to the provenance trail. Why be
>
> critical of someone who is making our hobby a better place for collectors?
> I have dealt with Adam on many occasions and am 200% comfortable that all of
>
> the specimens he has sold me are authentic, accurately classified, and not a
>
> piece of a meteorite that someone feels should be paired with a numbered
> specimen. Adam "does it right" and we should be thankful that his business
>
> ethic is so high.
>
> That's my 0.02 on this
>
> Regards,
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.
>
>
>> What difference does a 20% type specimen make to someone who is a
>> millionaire?
>>
>> If someone has enough money to purchase a substantial quantity of
>> planetary meteorite, then they have enough money to pay for lab
>> analysis and the 20% type sample.
>>
>> What a First World problem that is. Should I have my stone
>> classified? No, I need to save money for my next luxury car, or boat,
>> or summer home, or vacation to Europe. Waaaaaaah. Cry me a river.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
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>> On 3/4/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> It is amazing what some dealers try to get away with. In the long run,
>>> words that may describe their legacy might be; "They sure were cheap,
>>> They
>>> didn't care, They sure knew how to make a nickel scream or It was all
>>> about
>>> money for them!"
>>>
>>> Any dealer who has been around the planetary market long enough knows
>>> there
>>> are no shortcuts. Those taking shortcuts and trying to save a few bucks
>>> getting around the 20% type specimen repository will lose credibility
>>> very
>>> quickly in this niche market.
>>>
>>> What collector in their right mind would want a planetary meteorite
>>> without
>>> an official number when you can get an officially classified specimen
>>> for
>>> the same price? I am sorry, pairing a planetary meteorite yourself is
>>> wrong unless you are a real planetary scientist, not an aspiring one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "cdtucson at cox.net" <cdtucson at cox.net>
>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 2:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.
>>>
>>> Adam,
>>> Don't forget the big one. NWA 5400. In this case even with the word of a
>>> real Scientist, people had to wait for Oxygen Isotope comparisons.
>>> Luckily,
>>> The science proved pairings but, a self pairing is never a good idea.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> meteoritemax
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> ---- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> I cannot believe in this day and age there are dealers self-proclaiming
>>>> pairings on planetary material? I found that most collectors expect
>>>> dealers to have each and every planetary stone in a pairing
>>>> series examined by a competent scientist at the bare minimum.
>>>>
>>>> My brother and I go as far as depositingthe customary 20% even though
>>>> we
>>>> may suspect a pairing. We do not make the judgment call ourselves.
>>>> NWA
>>>> 1110, 4880 and others come to mind. We always get a unique number and
>>>> claim the weight of the entire batch when multiples are found. We
>>>> submit
>>>> every piece for examination and claim all of the weight at once. In
>>>> the
>>>> case of NWA 2999, a thin-section was taken from every pebble.
>>>>
>>>> Self-pairing a planetary piece is equivalent to a coin or artifact
>>>> dealer
>>>> grading their own inventory.
>>>>
>>>> Come on, get a number and make the pieces official so as to avoid
>>>> confusion later on!
>>>>
>>>> It is disrespectful to collectors and dealers who follow the rules to
>>>> take
>>>> shortcuts in order to save 20% and some lab fees.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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