[meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

From: Ed Deckert <edeckert_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:56:28 -0500
Message-ID: <F508E46526964475A45C425113384841_at_MAINPC>

Mike,

Adam is running his business in a most ethical and desirable way. His
efforts add even more value and importance to the provenance trail. Why be
critical of someone who is making our hobby a better place for collectors?
I have dealt with Adam on many occasions and am 200% comfortable that all of
the specimens he has sold me are authentic, accurately classified, and not a
piece of a meteorite that someone feels should be paired with a numbered
specimen. Adam "does it right" and we should be thankful that his business
ethic is so high.

That's my 0.02 on this

Regards,
Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.


> What difference does a 20% type specimen make to someone who is a
> millionaire?
>
> If someone has enough money to purchase a substantial quantity of
> planetary meteorite, then they have enough money to pay for lab
> analysis and the 20% type sample.
>
> What a First World problem that is. Should I have my stone
> classified? No, I need to save money for my next luxury car, or boat,
> or summer home, or vacation to Europe. Waaaaaaah. Cry me a river.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
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> On 3/4/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It is amazing what some dealers try to get away with. In the long run,
>> words that may describe their legacy might be; "They sure were cheap,
>> They
>> didn't care, They sure knew how to make a nickel scream or It was all
>> about
>> money for them!"
>>
>> Any dealer who has been around the planetary market long enough knows
>> there
>> are no shortcuts. Those taking shortcuts and trying to save a few bucks
>> getting around the 20% type specimen repository will lose credibility
>> very
>> quickly in this niche market.
>>
>> What collector in their right mind would want a planetary meteorite
>> without
>> an official number when you can get an officially classified specimen for
>> the same price? I am sorry, pairing a planetary meteorite yourself is
>> wrong unless you are a real planetary scientist, not an aspiring one.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "cdtucson at cox.net" <cdtucson at cox.net>
>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.
>>
>> Adam,
>> Don't forget the big one. NWA 5400. In this case even with the word of a
>> real Scientist, people had to wait for Oxygen Isotope comparisons.
>> Luckily,
>> The science proved pairings but, a self pairing is never a good idea.
>>
>> Carl
>> meteoritemax
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> ---- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I cannot believe in this day and age there are dealers self-proclaiming
>>> pairings on planetary material? I found that most collectors expect
>>> dealers to have each and every planetary stone in a pairing
>>> series examined by a competent scientist at the bare minimum.
>>>
>>> My brother and I go as far as depositingthe customary 20% even though we
>>> may suspect a pairing. We do not make the judgment call ourselves. NWA
>>> 1110, 4880 and others come to mind. We always get a unique number and
>>> claim the weight of the entire batch when multiples are found. We
>>> submit
>>> every piece for examination and claim all of the weight at once. In the
>>> case of NWA 2999, a thin-section was taken from every pebble.
>>>
>>> Self-pairing a planetary piece is equivalent to a coin or artifact
>>> dealer
>>> grading their own inventory.
>>>
>>> Come on, get a number and make the pieces official so as to avoid
>>> confusion later on!
>>>
>>> It is disrespectful to collectors and dealers who follow the rules to
>>> take
>>> shortcuts in order to save 20% and some lab fees.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
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