[meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...

From: Don Merchant <dmerchan_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:08:32 -0500
Message-ID: <001c01ce179a$dc66f360$6401a8c0_at_donaldmerchant>

Very good advice Mike. If I may add...to all of you who do sell on eBay and
are tired of paying fees, and receiving unjust negative feedback from
constipated Buyers or dealing with fraud and wanna be Dealers/Sellers, may I
suggest an alternative. Please understand I realize eBay covers a world wide
distance of people, but and I mean BUT, don't many here on the Meteorite
List anyways adverstise that they have items posted on eBay? Yes they do,
and a large amount of Buyers are from this List who read the posted
advertisment and then go to eBay to view these Auctions. Some even sell
specimens just by posting on this List without eBay such as Chicago Steve
Arnold and several other Sellers, thus saving costs. Very smart people! Yes
I understand that an Auction can allow an unlimited price, but as avid and
experienced meteorite collectors, we know what we can afford and we know
roughly what the market value is give or take for most specimens.
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Here is an option which I have as well as many other people, for these
reasons took. You do not need to be a rocket scientist or computer guru to
do this. It is simple and well explained. Most importantly it is free. Yes I
said it is FREE. Build your self a small Website.Not only does it make you
look legit and professional, it seperates you from those frauds that hide
behind eBay. You then when you have meteorite specimens to sell, do as you
always have by advertising them on the List with a link to your site. Yes
there will be a set price and yes you can still use PayPal to have Buyers
purchase your meteorites, but Bam...no eBay fees, no negative feedback no
bull crap!
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 Here you can build a 3 page limit Website for free very easily. At least
click the link and check it out. Options are there for even more Website
options. My Website was created entiely by myself this way! Over 2.5 million
people use this Site for their home and professional business by building
their own Website. Just a thought and option. Heck if we can get the whole
List to do this we might be able to elliminate most of the fraud, and get
more bang for the buck to purchase meteorites. I know we will never
elliminate 100% of the frauds, but those who are serious about meteorites
can take it a step further by building a Website to sell their meteorites,
since many fraudulant people will find it to time consuming thus taking the
easy route via eBay. Now please don't get me wrong, we know not all eBay
Sellers and Dealers are frauds using eBay to sell their meteorites. But with
a Website you then can not hide behind your eBay name or behind eBay itself.
Check the Link out. I would not steer any of you wrong. Here is the Link:

http://www.webstarts.com/?aff=emflocater

Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
Cc: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; " Jorge M. Gon?alves "
<galeriacores at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON,be carefull what you say about my
meteorites on the Meteorite List,I am warning you...


> eBay makes money on sales, they do not care if they are sale of fake or
> real items.
> Forget eBay and you would be happier.
> Michael
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Based on the link below, that should be enough for eBay to pull not just
>> the listing but others as well.
>>
>> Slap, slap, oh sorry, I was obviously dreaming.
>>
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> To: Brandon <b1dunovant at aol.com>
>>> Cc: Jorge M. Gon?alves <galeriacores at gmail.com>;
>>> "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 1:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my
>>> meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
>>>
>>> If you would all stop buying from random scammers, the scams might
>>> stop.....
>>> Just sayin:)
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandon <b1dunovant at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites
>>>> he peddles are likely displayed with his "hand-written authenticity
>>>> cards" , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to
>>>> countless collections.
>>>>
>>>> What a shame.... Truly.
>>>>
>>>> Brandon D.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton <magellon.ken at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (Sorry if this is a duplicate)
>>>>> Jorge (galeriacores),
>>>>> Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your
>>>>> "authentic"" "OUM Dreyga" magically became an "authentic"
>>>>> "Chelyabinsk" ????
>>>>> See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken Newton
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gon?alves
>>>>> <galeriacores at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but
>>>>>> apparently you don't respect that policy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a
>>>>>> card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start
>>>>>> accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for
>>>>>> you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that
>>>>>> card and to me that is all the written proof I need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/2/28 jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>> 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to.
>>>>>>> 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so
>>>>>>> painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're
>>>>>>> either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no
>>>>>>> grounds
>>>>>>> to be threatening anyone who points this out.
>>>>>>> Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which
>>>>>>> apparently means nothing in your case.
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gon?alves
>>>>>>> <galeriacores at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start
>>>>>>>> exalting your
>>>>>>>> specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language
>>>>>>>> expression,
>>>>>>>> but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned
>>>>>>>> I'm the
>>>>>>>> only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know
>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>> other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any
>>>>>>>> authenticity.
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