[meteorite-list] Baygorria vs Campo

From: Jim Strope <faq4q_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:11:13 -0500
Message-ID: <4103A1A2-B2FB-456C-8BB6-1EE41FC0BB61_at_yahoo.com>

LOLoud.

Jim Strope
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Glen Dale, WV. 26038

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On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Jason, Mike and all,
> Baygorria is NOT Campo.
> Here is the story:
> E.T. Recovered Baygorria. However, while he was in
> The midst of cutting, etching & distributing it, another
> dealer distributed dozens of slices of Campo AS BAYGORRIA
> to numerous institutions and individuals. This ultimately
> lead to multiple institutions stating that Baygorria was not
> a separate fall, but merely Campo sold under a different name.
> Ask E.T. About this.
> Michael
>
>
> On 2/28/13 10:24 PM, "jason utas" <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mike, All,
>> Good catch. Uruacu's something else, while Baygorria is Campo, along
>> with Las Palmas and a few other newbies supposedly from...other
>> places.
>> Gotta love globalization...
>> Jason
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Uruacu could hardly be more different than Campo. Jason, are you confusing
>>> Baygorria with Uruacu? I saw Adam mention Baygorria (which is a total scam to
>>> claim campo under another name).
>>> Uruacu from Brazil is an extremely stable iron. It is old, but amazingly when
>>> cut is perfect and so have yet to see a piece that rusts on a cut surface.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:31 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Adam, All,
>>>>
>>>> Actually, Uruacu does appear to be distinct from Campo del Cielo.
>>>> Uruacu appears to be a much older meteorite that has weathered in
>>>> different conditions, and many individuals show cohenite when cut -- a
>>>> mineral I have never seen in Campo del Cielo. Generally speaking,
>>>> Campos run the full range from freshly-fusion crusted to rusty lumps,
>>>> and everything in-between. But, Campo fell within the past ~5,000
>>>> years, so we're talking about rapid weathering in a wet environment
>>>> (also why it's a ruster). Uruacu fell in a drier area, and most
>>>> individuals exhibit a much more uniform covering of shale that does
>>>> not readily flake off due to rusting. They seem to have fallen much
>>>> longer ago, and are generally more weathered due to the fact that
>>>> they've been around for longer. Uruacu generally resists rusting
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> It would be like comparing Sikhote Alin to Henbury. No Henburies I
>>>> know of rust, but, by and large, they're not as fresh as most
>>>> Sikhotes. But some Sikhotes appear to have fallen into swampy areas
>>>> and look pretty bad -- and rust. It's hard to mix the two up.
>>>>
>>>> The trouble is that I've also seen Campos sold as Uruacu, which
>>>> complicates things. Uruacu is a very old fall. Even some reputable
>>>> dealers have been selling specimens of "new Campo" (crust,
>>>> regmaglypts) as Uruacu. Very different. I assume this is due to
>>>> dishonest suppliers.
>>>>
>>>> There's a stunning, fairly large Uruacu for sale at the moment. Not
>>>> mine, but I wonder if this will bring it out of the woodwork.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Date: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite
>>>>> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't Baygorria another meteorite with a fake provenance? Basically a
>>>>> cleaned up Campo with a delaminated section protruding after a
>>>>> not-so-careful makeover. I would just tell him to seek first aid so he
>>>>> doesn't catch the dreaded Lawrencite disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Randy Korotev <korotev at wustl.edu>
>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite
>>>>>
>>>>> I recieved a well prepared letter from a fellow with a question that I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> begin to answer. Maybe someone on the list has seen this kind of thing
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> He bought a Baygorria (Iron, IAB complex) from a dealer 3 years ago. He
>>>>> picked it up recently to find a metal protrusion sticking out of the thing
>>>>> that was sharp enough to prick his thumb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a jpg of his scanned photo.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://meteorites.wustl.edu/baygorria.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> What's happened here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy Korotev
>>>>> St. Louis
>>>>>
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