[meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:06:03 -0500
Message-ID: <BAY173-W493218941C63FB98E4D897A26A0_at_phx.gbl>

In order to see the latest met-list posts quickly and in real time I have a desktop shortcut that takes me to the monthly archive:

http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/private/meteorite-list/2013-July/date.html

You'll have to log in with your email address and met-list account password whenever you restart your computer but this is no problem for me since my pc is usually on whenever I'm home. Viewing the list in this way lets you scan through all the latest posts in a few seconds and pick what you'd like to read without slowly going through everything in an email account.

I rarely even check the email address I use for the list, maybe every week or two, unless I post a comment or engage in a conversation.

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> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 01:38:27 -0700
> From: photophlow at yahoo.com
> To: gmhupe at centurylink.net; element33 at peconic.net; mike at meteoriteguy.com
> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; photophlow at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>
> Listers
>
> True that to the human interaction. But again we like it instant these days. But I cant say that for meteorite centrals list. I have noticed since the over haul on the list the Art did, it seem topics have changed and the amount of peoples thoughts and inputs. But again I might be wrong too. But I know this, before the change, I could go to meteorite central website and see what was the chat of the day or hour or min. But now if I go to meteorite central, the last posting was July 11. To me, with everything being about the now, I would be like, o ok, this is some old school posting going on. I barely go to meteorite central anymore because of that. But now I have to get the endless emails over and over, and at times I don't have time to look at them, and that might be one of the problems people don't chat as much. I wish that the list would be instant, then I would set my emails to bulk archive and then I could read much faster on the list who said what,
> or at least who said it first and go from there. However, I still like the list, but I wish the list was how it was and when you sent out the email it would be posted to meteorite central.
>
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> From: Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> To: Michael Bross <element33 at peconic.net>; Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>
>
> Michael Bross wrote [in regards to social media, {electronic
> communication}]:
> "... instant, no depth !"
>
> I could not agree with his comment more... human interaction is lost in
> electronic communications!!
>
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> Greg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bross
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:12 PM
> To: Michael Farmer
> Cc: Adam
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>
> you post while I was writing to you again
> and now you put a more aggressive tone. It's ok for now...
>
> before I respond to your post, here is what I was trying
> to share with you:
>
> I don't know Adam Hupe.
> I saw many emails at once about Curry ... thread still on...
> we continue exchanging with that "subject line"...!
> The one from Adam Hupe attracted me immediately.
>
> He is not talking about gvt etc... but showing that in
> Colorado... in the desert mainly... especially if you are a
> Meteorite Hunter like you... you have speed cameras
> to check if you are a danger to others... !!
>
> That's what I read in his first etc... posts.
> Not just regulations
>
>
> To your post:
> - given up of what ? The very few interesting posts on this forum
> for the last year and a half ? (we can continue on this...)
> where are they now ?
> - chatrooms ?!... sure... where you spend your time trying
> to figure out to what line you got the relating answer... a non dialog !
> Fb and other Twit... instant, no depth !
>
> So, there is a place for this forum and others to allow that space
> of freedom
>
> That's what I feel tonight
>
> And if wrong... I will leave this forum, which became mostly about some
> ads, some rants... and very few about Meteorites
>
> All best
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:40 AM
> To: "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
> Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>
>> There is low traffic because most have given up and either left or just
>> don't bother anymore.
>> If you are bored there are chatrooms. I talk politics on Facebook, I
>> prefer to talk meteorites on this meteorite list. It has rules clearly
>> spelled out that all post need to relate to meteorites.
>> While cool scientific posts are often on here, and no one complains as
>> they are usually about geology or astronomy, which can be rolled into
>> meteorites in general, speeding tickets and cameras really don't need to
>> be here unless you say "watch out just before Holbrook turn as there is a
>> speed camera" for example. Ive been on this list for 14 years and have
>> seen it dwindle from 50-60 posts a day down to 2 or 3 useful. Perhaps we
>> can find our way back to meteorites?
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> because, they are really few forums today where there is an exchange.
>>>
>>> I am on various forums: archeometallurgy, medicinal plants, ancient tools
>>> etc...
>>> The exchange has become so minimal compared to the late 90s
>>>
>>> The "success" of them were in being able to talk about other topics
>>> when there were of interest, of course...
>>>
>>> I enjoyed seeing a recent post from Michael Cottingham about his
>>> Yerba Mansa project (I still have to contact him)
>>> and many other OT subjects here... lately
>>>
>>> If they enrich us/me, they are not OT
>>> Don't you think that way ? or are meteorites your only interest ?
>>>
>>> When you go Tucson or other Meteorite gathering, do you only talk
>>> about meteorites ?
>>>
>>> If not, why not here ?
>>> There is such low traffic... and the delete key is so accessible
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:17 AM
>>> To: "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
>>> Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>
>>>> Sadly the list is being used daily for off-topic rants.
>>>> Meteorite-related posts are becoming the
>>>> minority. There are endless forums for speeding tickets etc, government,
>>>> politics, privacy, there are few for meteorites. Sadly the meteorite
>>>> forums on facebook have been taken over by endless Moroccan spam and
>>>> demands to identify their endless rocks. I am blocking them because of
>>>> the flood of spam. We have few places to turn for real meteorite talk.
>>>> Please don't make this list about personal rants on government topics
>>>> not related to meteorites. BLM rules, yes, speeding tickets, why?
>>>>
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> it is your way of thinking... not mine
>>>>> especially because this forum has been much less on meteorites
>>>>> since Fb and other social networks seem to drag the traffic...
>>>>> and I will never go to these massroads
>>>>>
>>>>> I love meteorites for what they are.
>>>>> I am not a collector, but happy to have some Campo del Ceilo
>>>>> a Seshuan but no gorgeous pallasite...
>>>>>
>>>>> And I enjoy others sharing here on this worldwide forum,
>>>>> like the sinkholes from Paul H.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>> Michael B.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:57 AM
>>>>> To: "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
>>>>> Cc: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"
>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>>>
>>>>>> In no way shape or form does speed cameras or privacy rules etc belong
>>>>>> on this list. Nothing in these emails was about meteorites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "Michael Bross" <element33 at peconic.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi List
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Adam for your posts and links
>>>>>>> I love the one with your soulmate waving to the camera.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am French, lived many years in NYC and the East.
>>>>>>> Now with a "pied-a-terre" in Obernai, near Strasbourg in France.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In France, the speed radars are almost only placed to milk money, as
>>>>>>> you sadly said
>>>>>>> for Colorado. (not to get the real "road dogs")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael (Farmer), I also understand your point as this being of
>>>>>>> topic...
>>>>>>> but is it so ? when we look at the lengthy interesting posts about
>>>>>>> BLM rules,
>>>>>>> the meteorite market etc... this goes in the same range of looking at
>>>>>>> our world today
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like Adam rightfully said... the freedom of privacy has gone
>>>>>>> and I am very sad to hear that about USA !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway...
>>>>>>> In France, you can be on a road late at night with nobody around for
>>>>>>> miles and time... and being flashed by a radar because you are a
>>>>>>> couple miles
>>>>>>> over the "limit", between quotes, because being at 80 or 100 miles an
>>>>>>> hour
>>>>>>> in SUCH circumstances... doesn't matter at all. (we are talking about
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> on a multiple lane freeway/ Autobahn with barely any other car or
>>>>>>> truck around)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Germany, they have radars...BUT you have a margin of 05-10 kms in
>>>>>>> town
>>>>>>> and 20-30 on Autobahn
>>>>>>> btw, when I go to NYC, nobody is at the speed limit of 55 miles/hour
>>>>>>> but more in the 65-70 range... the troopers onl sort out the ones
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> off limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I agree with Adam with all the points he made.
>>>>>>> Socially responsible... YES
>>>>>>> But... please no not-human eye to estimate a situation as it should
>>>>>>> be...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Au revoir
>>>>>>> Michael B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:18 AM
>>>>>>> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are some people headed to Hollbrook through Kingman this
>>>>>>>> weekend. Just wanted to give them a heads up on unfair ticketing
>>>>>>>> going on. Somebody else posted the Curry contact which complained
>>>>>>>> about unfair traffic violation citations. It is pretty bad when
>>>>>>>> some cops are too lazy hand out tickets in person and depend on
>>>>>>>> cameras to do the job. I have seen mobile camera trucks with 20
>>>>>>>> foot booms in Arizona waiting around blind corners on the freeway
>>>>>>>> just to ruin somebody's day who may be going a few miles over the
>>>>>>>> limit! It is pretty bad when you can retrace your road trip 3
>>>>>>>> months later just by accessing the data on traffic cams.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What ever happened to chasing speeders down and giving them a ticket
>>>>>>>> face to face so you can al least see who your accuser is and argue
>>>>>>>> with them if they are wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me, all this data collecting (spying) on every single person in
>>>>>>>> the United States and those in other countries reflects poorly on
>>>>>>>> those currently in office who are abusing this new-found power. They
>>>>>>>> need to be ousted! What ever happened to warrants and probable
>>>>>>>> cause? Our freedom of privacy is at stake!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What next, a toilet cam with a weight monitor under the seat, a DNA
>>>>>>>> sampler and a butt recognition system?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why is this on the list?
>>>>>>>> Michael Farner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are thousands of cameras in place in Arizona, some of which
>>>>>>>>> will still issue thousands of tickets per camera per year. They
>>>>>>>>> are called traffic cams and they will still capture your every move
>>>>>>>>> and store this data for an undetermined period of time. The
>>>>>>>>> cameras have OCR meaning they can read your license plate numbers.
>>>>>>>>> This gives them the ability to retrace your every move if needed in
>>>>>>>>> court.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The freedom of privacy is long gone!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:11 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Contracts Curry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of thousands of cameras? Might be a bit of an overstatement.
>>>>>>>>> According to an article written in 2010 (after the state stopped
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> photo speed enforcement program), only a few local jurisdictions
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> use them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This is much more limited in scale and scope," [Matthew Benson, a
>>>>>>>>> spokesman for the Governor's Office] said. "You've only got (eight)
>>>>>>>>> instances of this throughout the state."
>>>>>>>>> http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/some-arizona-cities-still-using-speed-cameras-after-program-was-ended-by-gov-jan-brewer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael in so. Cal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Adam Hupe
>>>>>>>>> <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It is interesting that our friend is speaking of traffic stops.
>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, ED or Electronic D.N.A. is on the job 24 hours a
>>>>>>>>>> day 365 days a year. Here are some images of my wife I with a
>>>>>>>>>> Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit. She had the ticket printed
>>>>>>>>>> before we were even stopped as witnessed on camera. In Arizona,
>>>>>>>>>> they will just send you a ticket in the mail if one of the
>>>>>>>>>> thousands of cameras tracks you speeding.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Image of Nevada State Patrol in hot pursuit:
>>>>>>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-a.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ticket already printed before stop:
>>>>>>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-b.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sate Patrol officer looks pretty huffed, see you in court:
>>>>>>>>>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/TrafficCam-c.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Excuses like my throttle was stuck, my foot fell asleep or my
>>>>>>>>>> tennis shoe is made out cement will not fly in court these days
>>>>>>>>>> since ED doesn't lie. Tell the truth and you may get off with a
>>>>>>>>>> parking meter violation even though there are no parking meters
>>>>>>>>>> here in Laughlin, Nevada.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be careful on these long meteorite hunting road trips if you do
>>>>>>>>>> not want see a ticket in the mail or worse yet a trooper who has
>>>>>>>>>> the look of glee on their face when they pull you over!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>
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