[meteorite-list] ED fix

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 20:50:55 -0700
Message-ID: <9F69BDA3-6553-474F-9C99-A3AF6F562E4C_at_meteoriteguy.com>

Are you sure? Obama has the BLM on his desktop speed dial waiting for that chance to order missiles free on meteorite hunters. He is tapped in by NSA computers to your wristwatches. You are only safe if you use an 1890s or before pocket watch.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:45 PM, James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> LOL, seriously, if the pilot saw you guys and did a maneuver, it was out of showing off and fun. Far from any malice.
>
> As a former aircrew guy, and recently retired from a 23 year air force career, I promise you they could care less about rock collectors. There isn't enough training time - especially in the last five years - to go around. They are extremely busy trying to check the boxes - either test cards or the weapon school / Red Flag scenario at hand. They are concentrating on the mission, the aircraft systems, and things in the air that [if not watched carefully] can kill them. That list includes other airplanes, drones, birds, things falling off the airplane, engines a few degrees from alloy melting points, and ridgelines that like to smack pilots that don't pay attention.
>
> They have to do all this, and accomplish an over-loaded task list with just enough in the tanks to land with a couple of thousand pounds of reserve fuel.
>
> Like an over-tasked soccer mom with 1000 kids in the back of the mini-van, they are concentrating on much more serious things than people waling around on the desert floor :)
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/4/13, Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix
>> To: "James Beauchamp" <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>, "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Date: Thursday, July 4, 2013, 10:08 PM
>> I've had jets fly low while meteorite
>> hunting and thought it was really cool... never thought
>> anything negative about it at all.
>> GregS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: James Beauchamp
>> Sent: 5 Jul 2013 02:27:13 GMT
>> To: Adam Hupe
>> Cc: Adam
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix
>>
>> The pilot of the F-18 really wasn't concerned about you, the
>> little specks on the ground. Worse case, he was doing
>> his (or her) normal training route, saw some people and
>> decided to give you a small air show out of fun. You
>> got a cool treat from an aviator, not a scare tactic.
>> They have enough on their plate monitoring the aircraft
>> systems and staying on schedule. Posse commitatus is
>> still strongly enforced.
>>
>> A lot of you are freaking out over non-existent
>> boogeymen. What you should be asking
>> yourselves is what really led to the BLM policy. As a
>> lurker on this list for a couple of years, I've noticed a
>> few of you, through your arrogance and willingness to
>> disregard existing laws and regulations, probably
>> contributed directly to the change. Those of us trying
>> to take the high road have to suffer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 19:21, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One more thing of interest.
>>>
>>> Our group consisting of my wife, Zann von Hupe, Dr. Ted
>> Bumch and myself were literately in the middle of nowhere
>> here in Nevada on a mountain side and were buzzed by an F-18
>> jet. The pilot turned the jet sideways, matched our
>> altitude and hit his afterburners just to let us know that
>> he knew we were there. He flew so close to us that we
>> could see his helmet and face-shield as he turned his head
>> to get a better look at us.
>>>
>>> My question is; what device gave up our position?
>>>
>>> No, we were not doing anything wrong and Dr. bunch was
>> extremely angry about being buzzed so close because it
>> startled all us and we could have lost our footing on the
>> steep slopes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
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