[meteorite-list] ED fix

From: James Beauchamp <falcon99_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 20:45:49 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1372995949.62442.YahooMailClassic_at_web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

LOL, seriously, if the pilot saw you guys and did a maneuver, it was out of showing off and fun. Far from any malice.

As a former aircrew guy, and recently retired from a 23 year air force career, I promise you they could care less about rock collectors. There isn't enough training time - especially in the last five years - to go around. They are extremely busy trying to check the boxes - either test cards or the weapon school / Red Flag scenario at hand. They are concentrating on the mission, the aircraft systems, and things in the air that [if not watched carefully] can kill them. That list includes other airplanes, drones, birds, things falling off the airplane, engines a few degrees from alloy melting points, and ridgelines that like to smack pilots that don't pay attention.

They have to do all this, and accomplish an over-loaded task list with just enough in the tanks to land with a couple of thousand pounds of reserve fuel.

Like an over-tasked soccer mom with 1000 kids in the back of the mini-van, they are concentrating on much more serious things than people waling around on the desert floor :)

 

--- On Thu, 7/4/13, Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix
> To: "James Beauchamp" <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>, "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Thursday, July 4, 2013, 10:08 PM
> I've had jets fly low while meteorite
> hunting and thought it was really cool... never thought
> anything negative about it at all.
> GregS
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: James Beauchamp
> Sent: 5 Jul 2013 02:27:13 GMT
> To: Adam Hupe
> Cc: Adam
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix
>
> The pilot of the F-18 really wasn't concerned about you, the
> little specks on the ground.? Worse case, he was doing
> his (or her) normal training route, saw some people and
> decided to give you a small air show out of fun.? You
> got a cool treat from an aviator, not a scare tactic.?
> They have enough on their plate monitoring the aircraft
> systems and staying on schedule.? Posse commitatus is
> still strongly enforced.
>
> A lot of you are freaking out over non-existent
> boogeymen.???What you should be asking
> yourselves is what really led to the BLM policy.? As a
> lurker on this list for a couple of years, I've noticed a
> few of you, through your arrogance and willingness to
> disregard existing laws and regulations, probably
> contributed directly to the change.? Those of us trying
> to take the high road have to suffer.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 19:21, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > One more thing of interest.
> >
> > Our group consisting of my wife, Zann von Hupe, Dr. Ted
> Bumch and myself were literately in the middle of nowhere
> here in Nevada on a mountain side and were buzzed by an F-18
> jet.? The pilot turned the jet sideways, matched our
> altitude and hit his afterburners just to let us know that
> he knew we were there.? He flew so close to us that we
> could see his helmet and face-shield as he turned his head
> to get a better look at us.
> >
> > My question is; what device gave up our position?
> >
> > No, we were not doing anything wrong and Dr. bunch was
> extremely angry about being buzzed so close because it
> startled all us and we could have lost our footing on the
> steep slopes.
> >
> >
> > Adam
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Received on Thu 04 Jul 2013 11:45:49 PM PDT