[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

From: hall at meteorhall.com <hall_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 20:45:11 -0500
Message-ID: <88c9e65253b2712f91875041a3436cdf.squirrel_at_emailmg.ipage.com>

That would be a "Right foot unobserved fall into the cactus patch." What
would be the expletive for that "Fall"?
Double Cheers, Fred Hall


 What if you are walking through the desert while looking to your left at
> something and your right foot hits a rock and you stumble, then gather
> yourself up and then see what caused your 'fall'.... Would that be an
> unobserved trip over a fall, or you didn't observe what you stubbed your
> toe
> on because you were trippin' on that weird plant to the left?! ;-)
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Black
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:27 PM
> To: hall at meteorhall.com ; mike at meteoriteguy.com
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com ; valparint at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>
> Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of
> a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some
> falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.
>
> So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
> happened to all of them.
> That is simple reality.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
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> -----Original Message-----
> tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com>
> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
> <valparint at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>
>
> An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
> been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for
> the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger,
> and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
> Regards, Fred Hall
>
>
>
> That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a
>> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
> fall at
>> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
> house,
>> yet it was not seen to fall.
>> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
> date. So
>> it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
>> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
> of
>> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
> it
>> is a find.
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
>>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the
>>> Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
>>>
>>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
> that
>>> the fall was not observed.
>>>
>>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
>>>
>>> 1) was the fall observed?
>>> 2) if so, when was it observed?
>>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
>>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it actually
>>> found?
>>>
>>> Paul Swartz
>>> MPOD webmaster
>>>
>>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
>>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
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