[meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations.

From: Pat Brown <scientificlifestyle_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 22:13:11 -0800
Message-ID: <BLU171-W11737C079AA46BCABCFF463BD050_at_phx.gbl>

Hello and Good Night to all of the List Members,?

With all due respect, and recognizing the dignity and opinions of all humans, female and male, I choose to believe that we in the community of meteorite hunters and enthusiasts hold as a very strong value, the advancement of the body of?knowledge?of science as a?fundamental part of our nature and interests, and that we are happy to provide a type sample (often in excess of the traditional 20 grams / 20% norms) for further research on any and all of the meteorites that we find on public or private lands. Our interest is not merely pecuniary, but aligns with the higher calling of the advancement of human?knowledge of the nature of this wonderful solar system in which we make our homes. There are a select few?among?us whom make their living finding and selling these stones from space (to whom I am very grateful). And it is my?experience?that these special persons share our collective interest in promoting the body of scientific?knowledge?and are happy to aid the advancement of science with often times very gene
rous type samples.

Therefore, I propose that we accept and embrace these BLM regulations as a part of our duty to the rest of the citizens of these Great United States of America as a tribute to the incredible freedoms that we enjoy here (which in my limited experience, are very rare in most of the other countries of our world). There will always be comparisons of our activities to other?pursuits, but i propose that our passion and?pursuit is beyond those that seek mere personal riches. We are (in my own opinion) called to a higher plane of?existence and experience.?

I humbly submit this way of thinking about the field of science that we get to live and love in its incredible richness.??

Humbly, Yours in Science,?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Pat Brown ?

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> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:00:12 -0500
> From: hall at meteorhall.com
> To: countdeiro at earthlink.net
> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations.
>
> Just how does the casual collecting of meteorites differ from the
> casual collecting of gold? Gold is selling for over $1,600.00 per troy
> ounce, far more then most meteorites sell for. There are many thousands
> of causal gold hunters. Both gold and meteorites are difficult to find.
> Why should the regulations be different?
> The United States science community stands to lose, not gain, from the
> new regulations. Before the new regulations, anyone finding a 25 lb.
> meteorite on our Federal lands (as a very few have) would want a
> classification of said meteorite. That may no longer happen.
> Now, if the BLM had come to a positive approach to sharing meteorites
> over a ten lb. limit, say, as an example, split between the finder and
> the BLM, which could then supply the Smithsonian (or other appropriate
> museum) with the BLM's half. The finder could then do as they please
> with their share. The Smithsonian would get the meteorites classified,
> they would be happy, the meteorite hunters would be happy (at least
> much happier then with the current regulations). The meteorite finder
> would no longer have to pay for a classification, though they could if
> they so desired. Good regulations work for both our government and the
> people of the United States!
> Perhaps the IMCA should contact the Gold Prospectors Association of
> America, to find out how to stop unfair regulations before they are set
> in stone.
> What the meteorite collectors and hunters need, alas, is a lawyer to take
> the BLM to court.
> Regards, Fred Hall
>
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> > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and
> > Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the
> > collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State
> > owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached
> > message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal
> > regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City,
> > Nevada - BLM.
> >
> > Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual
> > collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was
> > told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make
> > sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific
> > collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been
> > discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of
> > some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on
> > the estimated value of the land to be hunted.
> >
> > http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html
> >
> > Good hunting,
> >
> > Count Deiro
> > IMCA 3536
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