[meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - "Diggers" episode Tonight NGC

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:56:41 -0700
Message-ID: <3DC85909-7721-41D6-B912-D9A970065B24_at_meteoriteguy.com>

Yeah, no, actually no, I will not be taking cameras in tow, Ill just do my thing and bring home meteorites to fill museum, scientific, and collectors collections. I won't be having cameras following me and having me plant meteorites all over the place and pretend to dig them up. Ive already been through that BS and it makes you want to take a shower afterwards.
There is nothing wrong with having fun on a tv program, there is something wrong with presenting total garbage as fact and generally acting like an idiot for the cameras unless it is a Jim Carrey comedy. Sorry, but I call it like I see it. Truly one of the worst shows I've ever seen, thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it:)

Michael Farmer

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike,
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> What, your not going to cancel your next meteorite fall hunting trip in order to stay home and watch the Diggers and Honey Boo Boo marathons?
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> I can't think of a better edumucation
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> It seems there are too many channels on cable and these cheaply produced shows that rerun dozens of items each act as filler.
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> Adam
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> ________________________________
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> To: Bob Loeffler <bloeffler at peaktopeak.com>
> Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - "Diggers" episode Tonight NGC
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> It is just really stupid to say that "this could be Kitt Carson's powder horn" or "Nectar Hannibal's razor-blade". This is entertainment for the lowest end of the spectrum. It belongs on MTV after Real World, not on National Geographic. I want the hour I wasted last night back! I would have been better off looking for scorpions in my backyard than watching this phony drivel.
> I also love metal detecting, gold mining, and meteorite hunting, Ive done them all, successfully.
> These shows are so contrived, so fake, so over the top full of crap that they are destroying these hobbies. Why do you think the BLM suddenly focused on meteorites and shut down collecting unless you go through years of paperwork? Could it be the idiotic prices quoted on certain shows telling people they could make thousands on every fragment of rock picked up?
> Michael Farmer
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:09 AM, "Bob Loeffler" <bloeffler at peaktopeak.com> wrote:
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>> I hate most of the reality TV shows that have been on for the last 20 years
>> or so, but I do end up watching Diggers, Prospectors, Meteorite Men and Gold
>> Rush every now and then because they are all related to my favorite hobbies
>> (digging for mineral crystals, meteorites and cool old stuff). Yes, they
>> are extremely over-hyped by the producers, but they are just entertainment.
>>
>> And I think Diggers is the least over-to-top when it comes to how much
>> something can be worth. In one of the episodes this week, they found a
>> really old button (possibly from the late 1700s) and they said it was worth
>> around $15. If that was on Meteorite Men or Prospectors, they would've
>> added two more zeros to the end of that number! I have seen 5 or 6 episodes
>> of Diggers and they have never priced anything more than $100 that I can
>> remember. Although I don't know what most historical items should be priced
>> at, I've agreed with the pricing from an outsider's point of view. Would I
>> pay $50 for a 150-year-old belt buckle in pretty good condition that
>> might've been worn by Kit Carson or Billie the Kid? Sure! Would I pay
>> $500? Heck no... unless there was really good evidence that one of them DID
>> wear it. So I think a lot of the pricing on Diggers is not too far from a
>> reasonable amount. A few items that they have found in past episodes had
>> lower prices than I had expected, things that I thought were kind of cool
>> looking, so I was actually PROUD of the producers for "doing the right
>> thing" and not putting a hefty price tag on them.
>>
>> The guys on Diggers are really goofy, but that's the nature of the beast
>> (i.e. TV shows). They are annoying, but seem like good guys out having fun,
>> doing what they love to do. Just like Geoff and Steve on MM. Sometimes
>> annoying, but we still love them on their show. And like Michael Mulgrew
>> said, the Diggers guys don't keep what they find. I agree with others that
>> they really should do more explaining on each episode (e.g. "we got
>> permission to dig here, make sure you get permission to dig wherever you
>> go") and dig their holes/flaps correctly to prevent erosion, dead grass,
>> etc. I'm sure they fill in their holes, so I wouldn't worry about someone
>> (or an animal) breaking their leg by stepping in a hole after these guys
>> leave.
>>
>> I just went to the Diggers website
>> (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/diggers/) and saw this:
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>> "As the show's production archaeologist Kate Culpepper ensures that Diggers
>> adheres to the strict standards of ethical metal detecting, and that the
>> historical value of artifacts and local sites isn't compromised in any way."
>> So there is probably more to all of this than what we see on the show.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob L.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Farmer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:05 PM
>> To: Michael Mulgrew
>> Cc: Meteorite List
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - "Diggers" episode Tonight NGC
>>
>> Jesus Christ, this show is horrible, I cant even believe that the Nat Geo
>> channel has sunk so low.
>> Yeah, a crushed thimble worth $15! Good luck on getting a nickel out of
>> anything these morons find. It is sad to see these reality shows sink so
>> low.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Adam and list,
>>>
>>> Far be it from me to defend anything on tv, but I do know (first hand,
>>> from the "Diggers" themselves) that they do not keep anything they
>>> find, it all goes to the land owners, and that their goofy terms have
>>> roots in the DVDs these guys originally made years ago and are used
>>> solely for entertainment purposes, i.e. another over-produced aspect
>>> of a cable television show. You and all other treasure hunters know
>>> that these terms are fake, but that's ok because those terms aren't
>>> for you, they're for the general public at home who know nothing about
>>> treasure hunting and get a kick out of two wack-ohs running around and
>>> getting crazy when they find something.
>>>
>>> Any time anyone's passion/hobby is portrayed on a tv show, the "real
>>> world" practitioners are going to be affronted; these are not the
>>> target audiences for these types of shows. If I was the worlds
>>> greatest nose picker and someone made a show about picking noses I'm
>>> sure it would be portrayed all wrong and ruin nose picking for all of
>>> us elite and dedicated Pickers.
>>>
>>> So enjoy these shows for what they are, entertainment; they are not
>>> meant to be taken seriously. Mainstream network news
>>> (ABC/NBC/FOX/CNN/etc.) is just as fake and staged as all of these
>>> shows, and I view it in the same light.
>>>
>>> Michael in so. Cal.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Yep, Glorieta will be the next area permanently off limits. These guys
>> on Diggers are an embarrassment to the treasure hunting community. Treasure
>> hunting club members that I stay in touch with cringe every episode knowing
>> that these guys violate the rules and are ruining it for everybody else.
>> The Cascade Treasure Hunting Club reminds its members that these guys are
>> just rogue entertainers and that they are not real treasure hunters who tend
>> to keep their finds to themselves or only share them with other club
>> members.
>>>>
>>>> Lets go find some "Nectar" , "Juice" and "Roundness", baby talk terms
>> used on the show that no real treasure hunter would get caught dead using in
>> the field!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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