[meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW89ZCA+s38T9LQ_BEoMq=EBSyJcjdvSd-59eB-wvEiPUg_at_mail.gmail.com> In the immortal words of John Cutter - Always bet on black. ;) I know my Jbilet Winselwan is the real thing. #1 - it is indeed very black. LOL. #2 - I acquired it from one of the named mass-holders in the Met Bulletin write-up. BTW, I think I saw some Jbilet Winselwan for sale at Walmart today. The name of the dealer was "Kingsford" ..... Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone ------------------------------------------------------------- On 8/26/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote: > By the way, I asked a Moroccan Facebook dealer why they thought their > meteorite was Jbilet Winselwan and the answer was "it's black". > > Gives a great feeling of confidence eh? > > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote: > >> I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified >> meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to >> get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at >> a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA >> for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both >> other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are >> buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you >> are possibly and probably getting scammed. >> Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco >> that sell to me? >> What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so >> they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices >> cheaper than they sold to you. >> In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy >> dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly >> sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very >> common game and we all lose for it. >> Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run >> laughing to the bank. >> >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote: >> >>> I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best >>> possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main >>> considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity >>> for the last 18 years or so! >>> >>> My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui >>> et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA >>> meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from >>> all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North >>> Africa... Most well known for their "NWA" moniker! >>> >>> Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> ==================== >>> Greg Hup? >>> The Hup? Collection >>> gmhupe at centurylink.net >>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) >>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) >>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) >>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault >>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault >>> IMCA 3163 >>> ==================== >>> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Farmer >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM >>> To: Gary Fujihara >>> Cc: MeteorList >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 >>> >>> I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams >>> to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly >>> generous all the time. >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, ? the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear >>>> where you are coming from. >>>> >>>> But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving >>>> kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the >>>> meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as >>>> opposed to nondescript NWA number). >>>> >>>> Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in >>>> communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material >>>> to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a >>>> single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated >>>> with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. >>>> >>>> Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for >>>> classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair >>>> afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and >>>> analysis fees. >>>> >>>> And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, >>>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html >>>> >>>> gary ;^) >>>> >>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name >>>>> for itself... >>>>> ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the >>>>> ages!!! >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> ==================== >>>>> Greg Hup? >>>>> The Hup? Collection >>>>> gmhupe at centurylink.net >>>>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) >>>>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) >>>>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault >>>>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault >>>>> IMCA 3163 >>>>> ==================== >>>>> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >>>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ruben Garcia >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM >>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great >>>>> pricestoo! >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet >>>>> Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch >>>>> of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... >>>>> >>>>> Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. >>>>> Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about >>>>> 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! >>>>> >>>>> Page 1 >>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm >>>>> >>>>> Page 2 >>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia >>>>> <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU >>>>>> trade) but have more! >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. >>>>>> Starting at only $40 per gram. >>>>>> >>>>>> check it out >>>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> call or email for more info 602 388 9618 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rock On! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ruben Garcia >>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rock On! >>>>> >>>>> Ruben Garcia >>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, ? the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear >>>>> where you are coming from. >>>>> >>>>> But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving >>>>> kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the >>>>> meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name >>>>> (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). >>>>> >>>>> Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in >>>>> communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material >>>>> to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under >>>>> a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've >>>>> consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, >>>>> 7466. >>>>> >>>>> Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for >>>>> classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair >>>>> afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and >>>>> analysis fees. >>>>> >>>>> And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, >>>>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html >>>>> >>>>> gary ;^) >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name >>>>>> for itself... >>>>>> ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the >>>>>> ages!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> Greg >>>>>> >>>>>> ==================== >>>>>> Greg Hup? >>>>>> The Hup? Collection >>>>>> gmhupe at centurylink.net >>>>>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) >>>>>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) >>>>>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault >>>>>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault >>>>>> IMCA 3163 >>>>>> ==================== >>>>>> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >>>>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ruben Garcia >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM >>>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great >>>>>> pricestoo! >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet >>>>>> Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch >>>>>> of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... >>>>>> >>>>>> Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. >>>>>> Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about >>>>>> 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! >>>>>> >>>>>> Page 1 >>>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> Page 2 >>>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia >>>>>> <rubengarcia85382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU >>>>>>> trade) but have more! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. >>>>>>> Starting at only $40 per gram. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> check it out >>>>>>> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> call or email for more info 602 388 9618 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Rock On! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ruben Garcia >>>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rock On! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ruben Garcia >>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gary Fujihara >>>>> Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. >>>>> PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 >>>>> (808) 640-9161 >>>>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary Fujihara >>>> Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. >>>> PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 >>>> (808) 640-9161 >>>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ >>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >Received on Mon 26 Aug 2013 01:31:22 PM PDT |
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