[meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 112, Issue 35
From: C.G. <petcal50_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:15:49 -0700 Message-ID: <CAJE4+UCLJrSKjJ9htw0Eg3YzoZNRGL1yfzoe3Fmv=uY_JdrAHQ_at_mail.gmail.com> Now HERE'S a question I bet has never arisen on here...I have a new THR(total Hip Replacement--nice chunk of metal into my leg and metal/plastic cup in ball joint)...while doing very well in recovery at day 86 post surgery, I saw the mention of the Meteorite stick, with the XXL magnet..Methinks if this got too close to my new hardware, I'd be in BIG trouble! Comments welcomed! I don't want to have to call 911 and make the evening news... Just D..... glad to be off a walker, and walking with just a cane now. Cal G. On 10/25/12, meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com <meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > meteorite-list-owner at meteoritecentral.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (jason utas) > 2. Re: Novato (Danny Mills) > 3. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (Jim Wooddell) > 4. Re: Fake Buddha Statue (Steve Arnold) > 5. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (jason utas) > 6. Curiosity Update: Assessing Drop-Off to Mars Rover's > Observation Tray (Ron Baalke) > 7. Mars Rover Opportunity Update: Oct 18-23, 2012 (Ron Baalke) > 8. Re: Novato Meteorite Stick (John higgins) > 9. Ohio Made Riker Mounts? (Mike Groetz) > 10. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (Mark Bowling) > 11. Dismissed 'rock' a meteorite after all (Tom Randall) > 12. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (Stuart McDaniel) > 13. NWA 7319 Melt Breccia Specimens - AD (Greg Hup?) > 14. Meteor detected by MBIQ over Ontario Canada confirmed (drtanuki) > 15. And so the Novato meteor-wrongs on eBay begin ... (Mendy Ouzillou) > 16. Re: And so the Novato meteor-wrongs on eBay begin ... (Brandon D.) > 17. Re: Holbrook for sale on Facebook (Mark Bowling) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:22:30 -0700 > From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <CAK837U01HKSSpiowMRK5JXQAX4vKaiBo3RYia7m8w1yWiteSQQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello All, > Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but > always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been > mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places > where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. > > But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. > > The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has > "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, > which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. > > If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has > weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. > > A real one: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 > > Note the fine detail still present on the crust. > > And again: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 > > Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and > Park Forest." Anyone want to try to get some photos? He could have > purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any > fingers here. > > Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. > > Regards, > Jason > > > >> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >> >> >> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >> To form an opinion? >> Michael >> >> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that >>> looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found it >>> in >>> 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>> associate >>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know >>> there >>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>> before >>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I >>> know >>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>> I >>> can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and based >>> on >>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mendy >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:43:03 -0700 > From: Danny Mills <dannyspl12 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato > To: "C.G." <petcal50 at gmail.com>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Message-ID: > <CAKth5kah_csvP2=MrH3xTqT+xw+JD8wUXN79+vHDPT7A_mktsw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The meteorite hunter worth his salt would use ALL his tools he has > available to him because some of us dont have the best EYES as we get > older. Im sure I can get an agreement on that.... > > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Danny Mills <dannyspl12 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The meteorite hunter worth his salt would use ALL his tools he has >> available to him because some of us dont have the best EYES as we get >> older. Im sure I can get an agreement on that. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:48 AM, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Cal G, >>> Any meteorite hunter worth his salt would leave his metal detector behind >>> and use his EYES. Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie! Best in your >>> hunt. Dirk Ross...Tokyo >>> >>> --- On Fri, 10/26/12, C.G. <petcal50 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > From: C.G. <petcal50 at gmail.com> >>> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato >>> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> > Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 1:46 AM >>> > Does anyone know the location in >>> > Novato where the 2nd specimen was >>> > found? I'm close to the area, and wanted to hunt >>> > today..Novato is >>> > spread quite large, so, pinning down a spot would help..I >>> > did hunt >>> > some shoreline of a nearby lake, with no luck, but, I had >>> > left my >>> > batteries in my metal detector, and, they were dead, with no >>> > spares in >>> > truck...learned my lesson about taking the 9-volts out afer >>> > use! >>> > Good Luck Hunting! >>> > Cal G. >>> > ______________________________________________ >>> > >>> > Visit the Archives at >>> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> > Meteorite-list mailing list >>> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:43:55 -0700 > From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > Cc: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <CAH_zgwG9LRFUpPnREkDYEHWfY7E11ZkJA-rYyRV-cXse_J-OuQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Jason! > > So what do you think about this one? > > http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg > which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. > > Jim > > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello All, >> Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >> mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places >> where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. >> >> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >> >> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >> >> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >> >> A real one: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >> >> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >> >> And again: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >> >> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >> Park Forest." Anyone want to try to get some photos? He could have >> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >> fingers here. >> >> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> >> >>> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>> >>> >>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>> To form an opinion? >>> Michael >>> >>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that >>>> looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found >>>> it in >>>> 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>>> associate >>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know >>>> there >>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>> before >>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I >>>> know >>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>>> I >>>> can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and based >>>> on >>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Mendy >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > Jim Wooddell > jimwooddell at gmail.com > 928-247-2675 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:42:29 -0400 (EDT) > From: Steve Arnold <meteorhntr at aol.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue > To: meteorhntr at aol.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Message-ID: <8CF8100004F3249-908-43831 at webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > List, > > So, I was visiting Robert Beauford today at this store here in > wonderful Eureka Springs, where it is a bit rainy, but yet still a > beautiful fall day, shopper abounding, and the leaves are turning on > the hillsides around our quaint village. Robert read me the not quite > completed draft of the response to my post (below) here on the list, > mentioning why this piece was "not a fake" and I found his reply to be > an amazingly poignant retort. A few minutes later he mentioned how now > he had to decide if he will actually hit "send" or hit "delete"? I > sincerely hope he sends it, because I was indeed wrong in my statement, > and the topic deserves more discussion. > > I won't rehash all that Robert stated, as I hope he will send it and > you all can read it in his words, but obviously, the work is a genuine > meteorite and it is a genuine hand made work of art, thus not a "fake > meteorite piece of art." Now, the question is left as when was it made, > and possibly who made it and where? When it made has nothing to do > with it being a fake, unless of course someone is trying to pass it off > as being something it isn't, and that does not seem to be the case. > > Anyway, I stand corrected on what I stated. My intention was to say > that I felt there is no way it was 1,000 years old. > > Carry on... > > Steve Arnold > Host of Science Channel's TV Series Meteorite Men > ?????? www.ScienceChannel.com > Co-Founder of America's Meteorite Store: Meteorites & More, 28 1/2 > Spring St., Eureka Springs, AR 72632 > President Palladot Inc, Extra-terrestrial Gemstones > ?????? www.Palladot.com > Facebook:? MeteoriteMan?? > Facebook:? SteveArnoldMeteorite > Facebook:? Meteorite Men > Ebay: ArnoldMeteorites > meteorhntr at aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Arnold <meteorhntr at aol.com> > To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 12:20 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/space-buddha-statue-fake-fraud_n_2015587.html?ncid=webmail8 > > Of course it is a fake.? If it is a Nantan, it would have rusted away > into a million flakes about 997 years ago it if it was really carved > 1,000 years old.? Even if it wasn't a Nantan, I would guess it still > would have rusted to an extreme state in less than 100 years time, > unless it maybe was a very nickel rich ataxite.?? > > > > Steve Arnold > Host of Science Channel's TV Series Meteorite Men > ?????? www.ScienceChannel.com > Co-Founder of America's Meteorite Store: Meteorites & More, 28 1/2 > Spring St., Eureka Springs, AR 72632 > President Palladot Inc, Extra-terrestrial Gemstones > ?????? www.Palladot.com > Facebook:? MeteoriteMan?? > Facebook:? SteveArnoldMeteorite > Facebook:? Meteorite Men > Ebay: ArnoldMeteorites > meteorhntr at aol.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:49:57 -0700 > From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <CAK837U3GWtQ7QY7gJs7e3=uCgEjU1xan2Ev7Qi-JqVbqzAFkiQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Jim, > I see finely textured crust with surface rust. Looks like a Holbrook. > I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. > It's quite different. > Regards, > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Jason! >> >> So what do you think about this one? >> >> http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg >> which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >>> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >>> mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places >>> where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. >>> >>> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >>> >>> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >>> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >>> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >>> >>> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >>> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >>> >>> A real one: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >>> >>> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >>> >>> And again: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >>> >>> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >>> Park Forest." Anyone want to try to get some photos? He could have >>> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >>> fingers here. >>> >>> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>>> To form an opinion? >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook >>>>> that >>>>> looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found >>>>> it in >>>>> 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>>>> associate >>>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know >>>>> there >>>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>>> before >>>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I >>>>> know >>>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>>>> I >>>>> can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and >>>>> based on >>>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at >>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> jimwooddell at gmail.com >> 928-247-2675 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:51:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Assessing Drop-Off to Mars > Rover's Observation Tray > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) > Message-ID: <201210252051.q9PKpgrp009056 at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-336 > > Assessing Drop-Off to Mars Rover's Observation Tray > Jet Propulsion Laboratory > October 25, 2012 > > NASA's Mars rover Curiosity used its Mast Camera (Mastcam) during the > mission's 78th sol (Oct. 24, 2012) to view soil material on the rover's > observation tray. The observations will help assess movement of the > sample on the tray in response to vibrations from sample-delivery and > sample-processing activities of mechanisms on the rover's arm. > > Curiosity is working with material from the fourth scoop of soil it > collected at the "Rocknest" patch of dust and sand. On Sol 77, a sieved > portion from this scoop was delivered to the Chemistry and Mineralogy > (CheMin) instrument inside the rover. This is the second soil sample for > CheMin analysis. The material from the fourth scoop is also being used > to scrub internal surfaces of the rover's sample-processing mechanisms > in preparation for delivery of a sample from a later scoop to the Sample > Analysis at Mars (SAM) instrument. > > Sol 78 activities included analysis of an atmosphere sample by SAM's > Quadrupole Mass Spectrometer and monitoring of environmental conditions > by the Rover Environmental Monitoring Station (REMS) and the Radiation > Assessment Detector (RAD). > > Sol 78, in Mars local mean solar time at Gale Crater, ended at 10:57 > a.m. Oct. 25, PDT (1:57 p.m., EDT). > > Guy Webster 818-354-6278 > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. > guy.webster at jpl.nasa.gov > > 2012-336 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:55:36 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: Oct 18-23, > 2012 > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) > Message-ID: <201210252055.q9PKtaks010267 at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity > > OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Survey Drives Of Local Area - sols 3105-3110, > Oct. 18, 2012-Oct. 23, 2012: > > Opportunity is continuing a local area survey around the location called > "Matijevic Hill" (named in honor of Jake Matijevic) at the inboard edge > of Cape York on the rim of Endeavour Crater. > > The rover performed three survey drives on Sols 3105, 3107 and 3110 > (Oct. 18, 20, and 23, 2012), driving first west, then southwest, and > then southeast, totaling 226 feet (69 meters). Each drive was preceded > by the collection of targeted imagery and then followed by taking a > 360-degree Navigation camera (Navcam) panorama. On Sol 3109 (Oct. 22, > 2012), an atmospheric argon measurement was collected by the Alpha > Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS). The plan ahead is to conduct more > survey drives around this location. > > As of Sol 3110 (Oct. 23, 2012), the solar array energy production was > 575 watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.654 and a solar > array dust factor of 0.619. > > Total odometry is 21.87 miles (35,189.68 meters). > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:02:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: John higgins <geohiggins at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato Meteorite Stick > To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <1351202535.58237.YahooMailNeo at web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Your eyes are always the best tool in the shed when meteorite hunting, but > when you go to war, you need an arsenal. > > > The next best thing to having 20/20 vision is the Bazooka of all meteorite > hunting tools the Meteorite Stick! > > > Leave your metal detectors home! Metal detectors are useless in finding > Novato they are not suited for this meteorite or terrain. The Meteorite > Stick is the ultimate tool, it's ultra light, weighing in under 2 pounds and > has proven to be invaluable time and time again! > > > The Novato meteorite will quickly jump and stick onto the ultra powerful > magnet! > > > Best of Luck! > > > www.meteoritestick.com > > John Higgins > IMCA#9822 > > > www.outerspacerocks.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Danny Mills <dannyspl12 at gmail.com> > To: C.G. <petcal50 at gmail.com>; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato > > The meteorite hunter worth his salt would use ALL his tools he has > available to him because some of us dont have the best EYES as we get > older.? Im sure I can get an agreement on that.... > > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Danny Mills <dannyspl12 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The meteorite hunter worth his salt would use ALL his tools he has >> available to him because some of us dont have the best EYES as we get >> older.? Im sure I can get an agreement on that. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:48 AM, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Cal G, >>> Any meteorite hunter worth his salt would leave his metal detector behind >>> and use his EYES.? Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie!? Best in your >>> hunt.? Dirk Ross...Tokyo >>> >>> --- On Fri, 10/26/12, C.G. <petcal50 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > From: C.G. <petcal50 at gmail.com> >>> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato >>> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> > Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 1:46 AM >>> > Does anyone know the location in >>> > Novato where the 2nd specimen was >>> > found? I'm close to the area, and wanted to hunt >>> > today..Novato is >>> > spread quite large, so, pinning down a spot would help..I >>> > did hunt >>> > some shoreline of a nearby lake, with no luck, but, I had >>> > left my >>> > batteries in my metal detector, and, they were dead, with no >>> > spares in >>> > truck...learned my lesson about taking the 9-volts out afer >>> > use! >>> > Good Luck Hunting! >>> > Cal G. >>> > ______________________________________________ >>> > >>> > Visit the Archives at >>> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> > Meteorite-list mailing list >>> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:59:11 -0400 > From: Mike Groetz <mpg4444 at gmail.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio Made Riker Mounts? > To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <CABK572CHLB-WGuFHMeyHjwgJmmj2jeJL0Nw+jyECzCbG9OgaSQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > List- > Quite some time ago somebody made a comment that their company made > good quality riker mount boxes near Columbus, Ohio where I live. I > cannot find their posting in the older list archives. > Would somebody know who that company is? Possibly I could visit > them and save shipping charges. > Thank You > Mike > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <1351210864.73236.YahooMailNeo at web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right. > ? > It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in person, > I?would not have guessed Holbook.? If someone cleans/shines them up, it can > really change the look of them. > ? > I've?found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field, and I thought I > knew them well.? But?I was surprised a few years ago at the difference, > when?I saw one cleaned with chapstick just hours after being found in front > of?many witnesses.? I had to adjust my thinking (I've always left mine as > found, dirt and all, and I'm glad I have). > ? > But even so, that doesn't really change the thickness of the crust.? It > just?looks strange - it could be a Holbrook that's been?handled a lot,?like > being carried in a pocket (???). > ? > Unless you really trust this person, I'd stay away, but that's just me (the > seller could be on the up and up). > ? > Mark > ? > P.S nice finds Jim! > ? > ? > > > ________________________________ > From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > Hello Jim, > I see finely textured crust with surface rust.? Looks like a Holbrook. > I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. > It's quite different. > Regards, > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Jason! >> >> So what do you think about this one? >> >> http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg >> which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> Texture's completely off.? Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >>> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >>> mechanically altered much since 1912.? Surface rust, yes.? Places >>> where it has chipped off, yes.? Contraction cracks...usually. >>> >>> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >>> >>> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >>> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >>> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >>> >>> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >>> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >>> >>> A real one: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >>> >>> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >>> >>> And again: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >>> >>> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >>> Park Forest."? Anyone want to try to get some photos?? He could have >>> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >>> fingers here. >>> >>> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>>> To form an opinion? >>>>? ? ? ? Michael >>>> >>>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook >>>>> that >>>>> looks a bit weird to me.? The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found >>>>> it in >>>>> 1998.? I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>>>> associate >>>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me.? I know >>>>> there >>>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>>> before >>>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion.? I >>>>> know >>>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>>>> I >>>>> can email you the picture.? In case this is real, please PM me and >>>>> based on >>>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at >>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> jimwooddell at gmail.com >> 928-247-2675 > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:23:42 -0400 > From: Tom Randall <tommy2005 at hvc.rr.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Dismissed 'rock' a meteorite after all > To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: <5089D80E.3020306 at hvc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Maybe next time I'll wait a few days to post a meteorite find news > story. I shouldn't be surprised at the media I guess. > > http://bit.ly/SlHTRF > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:30:23 -0400 > From: "Stuart McDaniel" <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: "Mark Bowling" <minador at yahoo.com>, "meteorite-list" > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: <DCF62C208F8D4CA3AEB2CA35AA996361 at StuartMcDaniel> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The guy that has it for sale just posted that he actually was the one to > find it. > > > > > ***************************** > Stuart McDaniel > Lawndale, NC > Secr., > Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society > > IMCA #9052 > Sirius Meteorites > > Node35 - Sentinel All Sky > > http://spacerocks.weebly.com > > ********************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Bowling > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:21 PM > To: meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right. > > It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in person, I > > would not have guessed Holbook. If someone cleans/shines them up, it can > really change the look of them. > > I've found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field, and I thought I > > knew them well. But I was surprised a few years ago at the difference, when > > I saw one cleaned with chapstick just hours after being found in front of > many witnesses. I had to adjust my thinking (I've always left mine as > found, dirt and all, and I'm glad I have). > > But even so, that doesn't really change the thickness of the crust. It just > > looks strange - it could be a Holbrook that's been handled a lot, like being > > carried in a pocket (???). > > Unless you really trust this person, I'd stay away, but that's just me (the > > seller could be on the up and up). > > Mark > > P.S nice finds Jim! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > Hello Jim, > I see finely textured crust with surface rust. Looks like a Holbrook. > I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. > It's quite different. > Regards, > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Jason! >> >> So what do you think about this one? >> >> http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg >> which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >>> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >>> mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places >>> where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. >>> >>> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >>> >>> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >>> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >>> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >>> >>> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >>> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >>> >>> A real one: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >>> >>> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >>> >>> And again: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >>> >>> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >>> Park Forest." Anyone want to try to get some photos? He could have >>> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >>> fingers here. >>> >>> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>>> To form an opinion? >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook >>>>> that >>>>> looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found >>>>> >>>>> it in >>>>> 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>>>> associate >>>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know >>>>> there >>>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>>> before >>>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I >>>>> >>>>> know >>>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>>>> >>>>> I >>>>> can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and >>>>> based on >>>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at >>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> jimwooddell at gmail.com >> 928-247-2675 > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:44:59 -0400 > From: Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 7319 Melt Breccia Specimens - AD > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: <B2F3A9836B0344DD89D7E7D7ABA7FC6A at Gregor> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Dear List Members, > > I would like to announce and offer a new Melt Breccia that has just become > Official in the Meteoritical Bulletin this week. NWA 7319 is a stunning L5 > Melt Breccia with a shock stage of 6 and weathering grade of 1/2. The Total > > Known Weight is 6414 grams in a single very solid stone, most of which now > resides in the 4120 gram main mass that has been sold already. This new > meteorite displays gorgeous melt 'rivers' enveloping 'islands' of matrix > with a nice amount of large and small vesicles, all covered with smallish > metals flakes. The large complete slices have a very generous size-to-weight > > ratio meaning that you get more display surface to the weight investment! > This meteorite is incredibly durable and the dense material allowed for a > very high polish that was difficult to photograph. > > I only have the 18 specimens listed below so if you are interested, please > send me an email to request pricing and to let me know what your first two > or three choices are. I will offer these on a first-come, first-served basis > > and believe they will find new homes very quickly! > > Best Regards, > Greg Hupe > > NWA 7319 L5 Melt Breccia (NEW): > Available Specimens as of this email: > *cs ? complete slice > ps - part slice > > 335g end cut > 126mm x 98mm x 18mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000001a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000001b.jpg > > 121.28g cs > 144mm x 127mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000002a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000002b.jpg > > 119.5g cs > 152mm x 126mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000003a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000003b.jpg > > 119.29g cs > 135mm x 117mm x 3mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000004a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000004b.jpg > > 115.6g cs > 145mm x 122mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000005a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000005b.jpg > > 114.06g cs > 143mm x 120mm x 3mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000006a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000006b.jpg > > 110.94g cs > 139mm x 120mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000007a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000007b.jpg > > 106.32g cs > 140mm x 120mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000008a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000008b.jpg > > 99.04g cs > 121mm x 119mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000009a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000009b.jpg > > 97.16g cs > 133mm x 112mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000010a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000010b.jpg > > 87.12g cs > 144mm x 121mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000011a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000011b.jpg > > 85.54g cs > 123mm x 113mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000012a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000012b.jpg > > 67.58g cs > 117mm x 110mm x 2mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000013a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000013b.jpg > > 27.7g ps > 92mm x 52mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000014a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000014b.jpg > > 15.9g ps > 62mm x 65mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000015a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000015b.jpg > > 6.2g ps > 54mm x 27mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000016a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000016b.jpg > > 2.15g ps > 34mm x 15mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000017a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000017b.jpg > > 1.82g ps > 23mm x 16mm x 1.5mm > 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000018a.jpg > 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa7319/Img_000018b.jpg > > Thank you for your interest in NWA 7319, and if you are just looking, please > > enjoy! > > Best regards, > Greg > > ==================== > Greg Hup? > The Hup? Collection > gmhupe at centurylink.net > www.LunarRock.com > NaturesVault (eBay & Facebook) > http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault > IMCA 3163 > ==================== > Click here for my current eBay auctions: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:48:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor detected by MBIQ over Ontario Canada > confirmed > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Message-ID: > <1351219738.46020.YahooMailClassic at web141402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear List, > Meteor detected by MBIQ over Ontario Canada; now has been confirmed. > http://mbiq.blogspot.jp/2012/10/mbiq-detects-ontario-canada-meteor.html > Bookmark this site if you wish advanced information about meteor detection > using MBIQ *meteor Bot Internet Query bot artificial intelligence AI. > Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:10:40 -0700 > From: "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] And so the Novato meteor-wrongs on eBay > begin ... > To: "'Meteorite List'" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: <07b001cdb338$3eecf6f0$bcc6e4d0$_at_com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Unfortunately using Jennisken's back and forth as a supporting argument > that > no one can be sure: http://bit.ly/WNkOLa > I've contacted him to tell him this is not a meteorite - we'll see what > happens. I don't do this often because I know based on other's efforts it > is a waste of time and effort, but what the heck, I'm looking to be > surprised (pleasantly). > Mendy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:22:35 -0500 > From: "Brandon D." <b1dunovant at aol.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] And so the Novato meteor-wrongs on eBay > begin ... > To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, 'Meteorite List' > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: <mgoh3i2vonu7utywaccj43ym.1351228811817 at email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Mendy, > > I did the same thing actually about 15 minutes ago. I told him it looked > like serpentinized dunite He asked for the input in his description so I had > no problem kindly letting him know it wasn't a meteorite. > > What would you guess it is? > > Regards, > Brandon D. > > Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Unfortunately using Jennisken's back and forth as a supporting argument >> that >>no one can be sure: http://bit.ly/WNkOLa >>I've contacted him to tell him this is not a meteorite - we'll see what >>happens. I don't do this often because I know based on other's efforts it >>is a waste of time and effort, but what the heck, I'm looking to be >>surprised (pleasantly). >>Mendy >> >>______________________________________________ >> >>Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:32:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Message-ID: > <1351229521.91090.YahooMailNeo at web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I guess we stand corrected... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com> > To: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com>; meteorite-list > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > The guy that has it for sale just posted that he actually was the one to > find it. > > > > > ***************************** > Stuart McDaniel > Lawndale, NC > Secr., > Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society > > IMCA #9052 > Sirius Meteorites > > Node35 - Sentinel All Sky > > http://spacerocks.weebly.com > > ********************************* > -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bowling > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:21 PM > To: meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right. > > It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in person, I > would not have guessed Holbook.? If someone cleans/shines them up, it can > really change the look of them. > > I've found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field, and I thought I > knew them well.? But I was surprised a few years ago at the difference, when > I saw one cleaned with chapstick just hours after being found in front of > many witnesses.? I had to adjust my thinking (I've always left mine as > found, dirt and all, and I'm glad I have). > > But even so, that doesn't really change the thickness of the crust.? It just > looks strange - it could be a Holbrook that's been handled a lot, like being > carried in a pocket (???). > > Unless you really trust this person, I'd stay away, but that's just me (the > seller could be on the up and up). > > Mark > > P.S nice finds Jim! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > Hello Jim, > I see finely textured crust with surface rust.? Looks like a Holbrook. > I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. > It's quite different. > Regards, > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Jason! >> >> So what do you think about this one? >> >> http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg >> which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> Texture's completely off.? Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >>> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >>> mechanically altered much since 1912.? Surface rust, yes.? Places >>> where it has chipped off, yes.? Contraction cracks...usually. >>> >>> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >>> >>> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >>> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >>> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >>> >>> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >>> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >>> >>> A real one: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >>> >>> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >>> >>> And again: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >>> >>> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >>> Park Forest."? Anyone want to try to get some photos?? He could have >>> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >>> fingers here. >>> >>> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> >>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>, Meteorite List >>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>>> To form an opinion? >>>>? ? ? ? Michael >>>> >>>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook >>>>> that >>>>> looks a bit weird to me.? The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found >>>>> it in >>>>> 1998.? I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I >>>>> associate >>>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me.? I know >>>>> there >>>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>>> before >>>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion.? I >>>>> know >>>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, >>>>> I >>>>> can email you the picture.? In case this is real, please PM me and >>>>> based on >>>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at >>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> jimwooddell at gmail.com >> 928-247-2675 > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > End of Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 112, Issue 35 > *********************************************** > Received on Fri 26 Oct 2012 11:15:49 AM PDT |
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