[meteorite-list] missed opportunity (was, Re: NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer Funds)

From: Greg Hupé <gmhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 22:56:57 -0400
Message-ID: <CC6C37370ADE4B1D926C63DE1EC28016_at_Gregor>

Bob,

I respect your 'protected' stance on this subject, however when you say this
was a, "missed opportunity [for outreach]...", was in fact part of
Jennisken's grand plan as quoted in the article and stated by the 'private
citizen' getting the 'free ride' on "The Blimp". I will quote here for one's
direct assessment...

"Jenniskens invited Rivera to join him and another scientist on the airship
ride over Novato and parts of unincorporated Sonoma County, following the
trajectory of the Oct. 17 fireball. Rivera said he took an oath not to tell
what they saw for fear that rogue meteorite hunters ? eager to sell galactic
collectibles on eBay ? might pounce on new potential meteorite locations and
rob scientists' ability to research more rocks."

I personally take issue with his entire paragraph! It insults the dedication
from us, "rogue [private] meteorite hunters", actual meteorite scientists
and the average enthusiast at large! What a slap in the face from an
media-hungry astrologer to make against us who have committed our lives to
the world of real meteorite recovery, science and sharing through the
expansion of actual knowledge to the entire world! We, as private citizens,
have donated more to the study and knowledge of meteoritics than anyone
really knows. Most contributions are made by private individuals who donate
because they can and want to without the hype or the huge mug shot photo
opp!!

It scares me to think that an individual who is not even knowledgeable about
the most simplistic aspects of a meteorite is out there representing our
national treasure, NASA! What a let down if this rogue astrologer is allowed
to continue his personal slime campaign against the private sector!! Shame,
shame!!

Best Regards,
Greg

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Verish
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:41 PM
To: Greg Hup? ; Jodie Reynolds
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: missed opportunity (was, Re: NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax
Payer Funds)

Hello All,

Given that it was a "free ride", I think Petrus missed an obvious outreach
opportunity. BEFORE the airship took off, he should have submitted articles
to the Sonoma County newspapers soliciting the local residents to look for
black space-rocks in their yards and driveways. Mention could have been
made in advance that an airship would be incorporated in the search effort.
Would make an interesting article for the local papers. The airship flying
over Sonoma would have been free advertising for meteorite recovery.
We've done a good job of saturating the media in Marin County, but nothing
directed towards Sonoma residents.
We need to stretch the strewn-field into Sonoma County and we're going to
need a lot of cooperation from the residents.
Bob V.

--- On Fri, 11/2/12, Jodie Reynolds <spacerocks at spaceballoon.org> wrote:

> From: Jodie Reynolds <spacerocks at spaceballoon.org>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer
> Funds
> To: "Greg Hup?" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 3:05 PM
> Hello Greg and List!
>
> It was my understanding that the airship rides were
> contributed. Is
> there reliable information that they're plunking down
> NASA-dollars
> for that? Because I agree - that'd be pretty
> criminal.
>
> Believe me, no one could possibly be any crankier about
> misappropriation of tax-payer dollars than I! I just
> want to make
> sure we string up the "right ones".
>
>
> --- Jodie
>
> Friday, November 2, 2012, 1:10:15 PM, you wrote:
>
> > To All Concerned US Tax Payers...
>
> > I have been troubled by what is a clear
> misappropriation of US tax payer
> > funds by NASA/SETI. At a time of this country's
> financial crisis, this is no
> > time to squander our tax dollars!!
>
> > We have all seen and read about 'The Blimp" that was,
> as stated in the
> > article link below, "... a NASA-hired airship." Not
> only are they using a
> > privately owned "Blimp" for frivolous and far-fetched
> 'research', but they
> > are also giving free joy rides to private citizens as
> stated from the
> > article, "Glenn Rivera [a private citizen] was invited
> by astronomers
> > [NASA/SETI] to hunt for more meteorite crash-landing
> sites from a NASA-hired
> > airship."
>
> > In recent conversations, I and many of my colleagues
> and some NASA
> > scientists (who wish to remain anonymous), have all
> concluded that finding
> > meteorites [of any size] is completely impossible and a
> waste of tax payer
> > dollars! How can one think you can spot a black rock
> the size of a dime, a
> > golf ball or even a basketball from an altitude of 1000
> feet?
>
> > The only entity that benefits from these dream hunts is
> the private company
> > who owns "The Blimp". They get paid by NASA for use of
> "The Blimp" and they
> > also benefit from all of the free advertising with
> their logos and web
> > addresses emblazoned on the sides of "The Blimp"!
>
> > As far as I am concerned, hunting for meteorites
> floating in the sky is full
> > of hot air!
>
> > Here is the link the the article I reference:
> > http://novato.patch.com/articles/hunt-goes-on-for-more-meteorites#photo-12000260
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Greg
>
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