[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?

From: meteorhntr at aol.com <meteorhntr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:19:12 +0000
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By the way Mike,

"Good on ya" as they say in Australia, to you and Greg both, on the donation to the U of A. It was a good thing to do and you all spun some great PR for the meteorite community out of the event as well. Not always an easy thing to pull off.

I suppose in 2 years or so, when the papers are published, and this gets named and classified, we will all start to appreciate what we have here.

It is a bit unfortunate that meteoritical laws require that information not be made public until after the papers are peer reviewed, presented and published.

Steve Arnold
Host of Meteorite Men
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:56:26
To: meteorhntr at aol.com<meteorhntr at aol.com>
Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?

Steve, not saying anything bad, simply letting you know what the lab told me, hopefully before many other people decide to cut pieces.
This meteorite when broken, retains all minerals, crystals (and there are
Many) volatiles etc, even when down to the smallest pieces.
Again, you can do anything you want, I am not stopping you. Just letting you know that this is one of the rarest
Meteorites we have ever seen, that's why Greg and I decided to donate some grams to the UOfA. I really hope most is preserved in the best forms possible for future science.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2012, at 10:43 AM, meteorhntr at aol.com wrote:

> Well Mike,
>
> If I can add a measly 10% to the body of knowledge of this meteorite, by sacrificing one little stone (heck if I can help add 1/10 of 1%) I think that would be great.
>
> My guess is that a lot of these stones that are going into both institutional and private collections won't ever be broken up much less in a "non contaminated" way and they will sit as whole stones behind glass for thousands of years.
>
> Nothing wrong with that at all.
>
> I'm just saying that one might gather from your post below that you were implying in a self righteous manner that I might have done something horribly wrong by having one of these (already contaminated) meteorites sliced?
>
> Of course there are opportunity costs in any course of action one takes. The slices I have now, while they are not useful anymore for SOME research and some examination purposes, they are however are VERY interesting (at least to me) in what they show. I see things that quite frankly, I am not sure one can see from a broken fragment.
>
> I am sure a thin section would show much of this better, but then of course, one would really be "destroying" a lot of material to get a thin section. (Look out Anne and E.T., there might be an IMCA violation in there somewhere toward you guys. - just kidding)
>
> Anyway, I think any researcher who will want to purchase any of my slices will be quite aware of the research limitations that the cutting has placed on the slices.
>
> But thanks for your concern Mike.
>
> Steve Arnold
> Host of Meteorite Men
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:06:51
> To: meteorhntr at aol.com<meteorhntr at aol.com>
> Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill slices question, Impact Melt?
>
> Steve, are you aware that slicing this meteorite is destroying 90% of the minerals and science value of it? It is an extremely rare meteorite and cutting does far more damage than breaking.
> We are having a 19 gram individual broken up in the UofA laboratory now and cutting was absolutely ruled out
> Due to the damage it would cause, even dry. While slice must be beautiful and I would love to see the pics, it should really not be done on this meteorite. FYI
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 9:57 AM, meteorhntr at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hey List,
>>
>> I just got in some slices of Sutter's Mill.
>>
>> So I have a question, do carbonaceous chondrites ever have impact melt zones in them?
>>
>> Steve Arnold
>> Host of Meteorite Men
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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