[meteorite-list] Shawn Alan's provenance for all the

From: Shawn Alan <photophlow_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1337107993.72906.YahooMailNeo_at_web160104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mike Famer

This is what Mike F said....

"I thought you got the Nakhla from
Bonhams? Or is this a different piece, because the larger fragment you were selling looked nothing like Nakhla"

Are you me???? Do I need to tell you every time I buy a meteorite, NO?

The large Nakhla fragment you keep telling the list?that is?not a Nakhla, IS a Nakhla. I bought the 1.04g from here, http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19371/lot/3172/?and I have it posted on here which I took the image of it http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/get_original_photo.php?recno=5654965?which is the same fragment with out a doubt from Bonhams. That fragment 1.04g is stil whole, nothing has been chipped off and will stay whole.?

The Nakhla I have for sale on ebay? right now is from??Siegfried Haberer which he told me came from a German scientist. Please Mike do your home work.?

Mike Farm said this... "Just because you bought a sample from someone does not mean that Everything you offer is from that sample."?
What, I am confused by that? I buy stuff from more people beside NEMS and all my stuff comes with COA from where it came from. I have delt with A list Meteorite Dealers and they know who they are :).

Mike Farmer said this "I am still not convinced. Your evasiveness suggests something is amiss"

Really??

I have a question for you can you PROVE that the Sutter's Mill meteorite that you say is a HAMMER STONE hit?a garage door? Was it found embedded in the garage door? Did someone see it hit the door? Did it make a hole and was found in the garage? Other then that how can you prove it hit the garage door? Please tell the List in detail of this events that took place when this supposedly Sutter's Mill Hammer Stone hit a garage door?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
eBay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?




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From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
Cc: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>; "fcressy at prodigy.net" <fcressy at prodigy.net>; "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Shawn Alan's provenance for all the

I thought you got the Nakhla from
Bonhams? Or is this a different piece, because the larger fragment you were selling looked nothing like Nakhla. Perhaps NEMS can confirm the samples you are selling are the same as he sold you, seems like either you turned a NEMS micro into endless micros, or some other look-alike material keeps finding it's way into your eBay sales. Just because you bought a sample from someone does not mean that Everything you offer is from that sample.
I am still not convinced. Your evasiveness suggests something is amiss.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anne and Listers
>
> Long time no chat good to hear from you Anne :)
> Lets make this more intersting:)
>
> Ill just post it on here instead of posting on IMCA Listed
>
> NAKHLA Martian/Mars meteorite - 1911 Fall-SUPER RARE! KING OF
> MARTIAN METEORITES
> This stuff is the same stuff your selling I think, but if not here I go, I got? it from ..... Drum roll please ......
> Siegfried Haberer which he told me came from a German scientist.
>
> SUTTER?S MILL Meteorite - Ultra Rare CA. USA CM Hammer Fall-April
> 22, 2011
> this is posted in the ad so please look at the ad for who I got it from :)
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUTTER-S-MILL-Meteorite-Ultra-Rare-CA-USA-CM-Hammer-Fall-April-22-2011-/251062588842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a747f15aa
>
> SYLACAUGA meteorite Mrs Hodge meteorite strike - USA - www.MeteoriteFalls.com
> Came from NEMS and it came with a ID card copy from David New
>?
> FOREST CITY meteorite 1890 historic fall -1st COURT CASE BATTLE!
> It posted in my eBay ad look here
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOREST-CITY-meteorite-1890-historic-fall-1st-COURT-CASE-BATTLE-/251062583718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a747f01a6
>?
> LOST CITY meteorite 1st fireball photo path in USA RARE
> Thank you Matt Morgan for the lost city meteorite which he got it from Blaine Reed, he has great meteorites that I bought from him.
>
> Pe?a Blanca Spring meteorite rare aubrite 1946 fall -
> WWW.METEORITEF?ALLS.COM
> Look at my ebay post and you will see where it comes from....
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pena-Blanca-Spring-meteorite-rare-aubrite-1946-fall-WWW-METEORITEFALLS-COM-/251058811484?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7445725c
>?
> BENARES (a) meteorite fell in 1798 - Hammer Fall! - www.MeteoriteFalls.com
> Came from NEMS
>?
> LUCE' meteorite - France 1768 very rare historic fall - 1st
> analyzed meteorite!
> Came from NEMS
>?
> KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749 -
> www.MeteoriteF?alls.com
> Came from NEMS
>?
> JILIN meteorite deemed as scientifically important & largest
> stony meteorite!
> Bought from eBay seller oncomi1 and he told me it came from Lawrence Pawl Collection. Anne Black you have a meteorite at one time was sold by oncomi1 from eBay and this is what you have on your site http://www.impactika.com/catpix/AB1280.jpg .
>?
> I hope this helps
>?
> Shawn Alan
> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
> IMCA 1633
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>
> To: photophlow at yahoo.com; mike at meteoriteguy.com
> Cc: fcressy at prodigy.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston
>
> Well, Shawn,
>
> Since you asked................
> And we have had that conversation before.
>
> Please post directly to the MetList the provenance for all the
> specimens you have presently posted on Ebay.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
> Vice-President of IMCA
> www.IMCA.cc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Cc: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net>; Meteorite Central
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 10:29 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston
>
>
> Hello Mike and Listers....
>
> Mike this is what you said........
>
> "another question, how did you get Benares? Not a gram in India and
> about 100 or
> so grams known, Karl has two complete stones from old collections, rest
> in
> London. Rarest of the rare. What provenance do you have? to offer
> Benares on
> eBay?
> This has been bothering a lot of people for a long time. This is a
> meteorite
> considered unobtainable. Can I ask where you obtained it? "
>
> Are we going to play this game again? Awhile back ago you accused me of
> having of some other meteorite I had to be mmmmm lets put it in a nice
> way FAKE
> and this is what you said around September 2011...........
>
> ">From: Michael Farmer <mike at
> meteoriteguy.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: ENSISHEIM, DaG400, NWA998, 2008TC3,
> NAKHLA,
> L?Aiglel, PALLAS IRON,LA 002, Jilin, Barwell, Siena, Weston, Luce, Abee
> & more
> ending on eBay!
>
>> To: meteorite-list at
> meteoritecentral.com, "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at
> yahoo.com>
>
>> Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 11:12
> AM
>
>> Shawn, I am curious, I have pieces of
>
>> Nakhla, and this Nakhla you are selling does not look like
>
>> Nakhla.
>
>> Can you take some clear photos of it, is that crust
> in the
>
>> photo? Impossible to tell, but if so, that isnt Nakhla
>
>> crust. Every Nakhla I have ever seen has the blackest
> crust
>
>> possible, so shiny it nearly blinds you, I have been
> to most
>
>> of the worlds major museums and that doest look like
> any of
>
>> the Nakhlas I seen.
>
>> I am also
> curious how you get so much dust and crumbs of
>
>> the rarest of
> the rare, Sienne, Laigle, Krasnajarsk, Luce,
>
>> etc. These
> meteorites are almost ipossible to come by, and
>
>> to see you
> for the last two years selling an endless supply
>
>> of dust and
> crumbs has people asking where it is from.
>
>> Can you let us
> all know?
>
>> Michael Farmer
>
>
> Michael this is what ill do cause I am such in deeded to you, why dont
> you
> contact Anna Black and/or Jeff Kuyken at IMCA and tell them your story
> and have
> them email me. If they contact me is Ill tell them and show them cards
> and
> pictures of where I got the Benares meteorite, and if they want, they
> can let
> the whole meteorite world know where I got it or NOT. But I am not
> going to
> entertain your antics again when you called me out on the Nakhla 1.04g
> fragment
> where I got it from a Bonham's auction.
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> eBay Store
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
> http://www.meteoritefalls.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> To: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net>; Meteorite Central
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston
>
> another question, how did you get Benares? Not a gram in India and
> about 100 or
> so grams known, Karl has two complete stones from old collections, rest
> in
> London. Rarest of the rare. What provenance do you have? to offer
> Benares on
> eBay?
> This has been bothering a lot of people for a long time. This is a
> meteorite
> considered unobtainable. Can I ask where you obtained it?
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I ment BENARES (a) :) as for Weston I love that stone cause its the
> first
> meteorite fall in the new world and help put Yale and America in the
> limelight
> of science in the international scene.
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>> eBay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
>>
>>? ? ? ? ????????????? ??
Received on Tue 15 May 2012 02:53:13 PM PDT