[meteorite-list] The term "hammer fall"

From: Becky and Kirk <bandk_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:05:24 -0500
Message-ID: <60908AC6DA44489E8C0836F0EE76F901_at_owner55652f88b>

Thanks Mike! Good for a chuckle this morning!!

Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gilmer" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
To: "James Masny" <sciflyer25 at gmail.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The term "hammer fall"


> Hi Jim and List,
>
> No need to apologize. This discussion has been (for some) :
>
> a) interesting
> b) fun
> c) horribly redundant
> d) cruel to horses
> e) epic
> f) none of the above
>
> A key point to remember, when considering the virtues of the term
> "hammer fall" or the merit of this discussion is : the hammerheads on
> this list were minding their own business, when it was strongly
> suggested that were are scammers who are trying to confuse innocent
> collectors and swindle them out of their money by engaging in
> "marketing". We (or I) weren't going around in public proselytizing
> the usage of the term and encouraging others to use it. We were not
> engaging in any campaign to promote hammerheadery or launching salvos
> against those that do not use the term. I simply defended myself (and
> a small handful of others) from negative allegations regarding the way
> in which we choose to enjoy our common hobby.
>
> Mike Farmer is suggesting I am retarded. I'm used to that and wear it
> as a badge of honor when one of the world's best meteorite hunters
> takes time out of this day to single me out as mentally deficient. As
> for everyone else, I will only say this - there are a few of us
> (although I only speak for myself here), who didn't want our
> participation in this hobby needlessly nit-picked, so we avoided
> joining IMNPA. Of course, my membership in the IMNPA was shelved
> because I have 5% Swahili and 2% Beatnik in my bloodline, but that is
> another story...
>
> Jim has said it best I think - "Using the term might make the seller
> feel the stone is
>> more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and
>> knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter."
>
> I asked a specimen of Park Forest today if it feels more important
> because it is arbitrarily labeled a "hammer fall" by a small
> percentage of dealers and collectors. It hasn't answered me yet.
> When it does finally answer me, I'm not sure I will understand it
> because I'm not educated or knowledgeable enough. I will forward the
> answer, when I receive it, to the IMNPA for decryption and
> interpretation. Hopefully then this poor horse can be laid to rest.
>
> In the meantime, there is an episode of Jersey Shore on TV today that
> I am going to watch. It is a new episode where Snooki and J-Wow
> debate the merits of orientation feature terminology as it pertains to
> meteorites. I'm definitely going to TIVO this one. :)
>
> Best regards and happy collecting,
>
> MikeG
>
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> On 6/15/12, James Masny <sciflyer25 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry to continue the torture of the horse. I have purchased many
>> different falls and finds from hunters/dealers that contribute to this
>> fine list. Not that my opinion as a small collector matters to the
>> masses, but for me, the term "hammer fall" is irrelevant. If I want a
>> rock that hit a particular something, I buy a "hammer stone" of a
>> fall. If not, I buy a spacerock that appeals both aesthetically and
>> scientifically to me.. Arguing over the semantics could continue
>> indefinitely. Using the term might make the seller feel the stone is
>> more important and makes it more marketable, but to an educated and
>> knowledgeable buyer, it doesn't really matter.
>> Just my two cents
>> Jim
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