[meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit

From: Richard Montgomery <rickmont_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:32:35 -0700
Message-ID: <473DF9C9750C49FF87A08471D157BB2E_at_bosoheadPC>

A follow-up to clarify...I echo MF's perspective.

-RM



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
Cc: "jason utas" <jasonutas at gmail.com>; "Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit


> Perhaps the job of the IMCA is not to police the world's laws, but to
> ensure authenticity, which is what it was set up to do.
>
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton
> <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED
>> EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return
>> material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike
>> Cottingham, and John Helm.
>>
>> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It
>> failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off"
>> 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked
>> to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, "shove off...
>>
>> 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY
>> EXPORTED MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you
>> know the laws about this, and choose to ignore it!
>>
>> your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are
>> an IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are
>> selling ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you
>> breaking numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or
>> will they remain quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys
>> break the rules?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Catterton
>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jason utas <jasonutas at gmail.com>
>> To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
>>
>> Hello Greg,
>> The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake
>> material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but
>> keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately
>> described material*...just shove off. You've done more harm to this
>> community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the
>> past fifteen years.
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM,
>> <wanderingstar at wanderingstarmeteorites.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export
>>> permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is offered by many IMCA members
>>> for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this
>>> (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling
>>> illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action
>>> against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale?
>>>
>>> Greg C,
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit
>>> From: Me Teor <m3t30r1t3man at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am
>>> To: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>
>>> Dear Shawn
>>> You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in
>>> India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is
>>> the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade
>>> or deal with any individuals or private institutions. There cannot be
>>> any export papers as export is banned.
>>>
>>> Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ?
>>>
>>> If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and
>>> has been exported.
>>>
>>> By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ?
>>>
>>> M.E.
>>>
>>> On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>
>>>>> From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in
>>>>> India would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which
>>>>> would take over possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol
>>>>> exempt from this, or was Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have
>>>>> gotten some of this meteorite fall, will their meteorites come with
>>>>> export papers like how Canadian falls are handled?
>>>>
>>>> Shawn Alan
>>>> IMCA 1633
>>>> eBay store
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
>>>> http://www.meteoritefalls.com/
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