[meteorite-list] For those of you that use PAYPAL I got this email today.
From: Shawn Alan <photophlow_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:11:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1328004702.84021.YahooMailNeo_at_web160101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hello Listers This is what I have found out about the post I posted and sorry for being off topic but I think it was important to post because I am stupid when it comes to tax laws and such and people on the List use Pay Pal as a form of sending and receiving money. From what I have read, in 2008 during the Bush administration a measure was sneaked in to health reform bill and it stated that if you generate $20,000 and have over 200 transactions with pay pal, amazon and other companies that deal with credit cards, your deemed as a small business in the IRs eye with this new reform that took effect in 2011. This means if you?. Lets say invested $100,000 in NWA?s meteorites and turned around and sold them for $50,000 in the past you?re deemed as a small business. Now the fun part, if you?re a small business in 2012 for purchases or expenses made that total $600 or more in a calendar year with any given company, person, corporation, auction house, coffee house, restaurant, hotel, that is related to your business you have to file a 1099 misc. To better explain this I found this from a blog and this is what someone had to say about the 1099 misc. form?.. ?If it was just large purchases such as hotels/airlines/car rentals... it wouldn't be so bad. But it's for every small business. To put this in perspective, think gas stations. A company will have to give a 1099 to a gas station if they get more than $600 there in a year. Business travelers will have to get the Tax IDs of every gas station, because, who knows, the cumulative purchases at that gas station by all travelers of the company could exceed $600/year, making it reportable. Worse yet... it's not per gas station, it's per company. If a company owns multiple gas stations, then it would be the cumulative purchases at those stations to cause the reporting. What does this mean? We as travelers will have to collect tax IDs of EVERY gas station, restaurant, coffee shop, where we make a business expense, because the company may have to 1099 them. Then we will have to enter all those tax ids in our expense reports. And someone in accounting will have to reconcile all those records and issue a truckload of 1099s at the end of the year. And fix all the errors. But wait... if the gas station fails to give a tax ID, we may have to withhold 20% of the payment right then and there. Oh joy! This law is so poorly thought out that I don't think it can be implemented. These 1099 provisions will surely have to be revised or repealed.? Now I am not sure, but I bet every 1099 form you have to file for each company there is a fee and lets say that fee is $20 and you had 50 different vendors that year, you could be paying $1000 in fee alone. To top it off this bill/measure was pushed in by special interest groups/ lobbyist that are for big corporate giants. It seems the 1099 misc. is exempt for those big companies. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? ________________________________ From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> To: Don Giovanni <don.giovanni50 at yahoo.com> Cc: Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com>; Meteorite Central <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] For those of you that use PAYPAL I got this email today. Render unto Caesar what is his. I wonder if General Electric, FedEx, Verizon, or Bank Of America will get one of these forms?? Oh wait, nevermind, those companies pay zero income tax. Shawn, maybe if you were a multi-billion-dollar corporation, then you wouldn't get that form from PayPal.? Better step up the sales, hide your assets offshore, and hire a team of tax attorneys to convince Caesar that you shouldn't pay a thin dime.? ;) On 1/30/12, Don Giovanni <don.giovanni50 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Shawn Alan wrote: > >> ....paypal will be send this to the IRS not taking inconsideration if what >> you sold was at a lose. > > Well, yes....but isn't pretty much the same as, say, selling a stock in the > stock market?? The IRS is informed of the stock selling price only, and it's > up to you to then fill out your taxes with the buy-price factored in, so > that you're only paying tax on the profit.? Or loss, which can then be > claimed. > > I'm assuming the tax return would be filled out the same way, for meteorite > sales, am I wrong? > >? ? 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