[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit-Tanzrou Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?)

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:43:53 -0500 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW_zEQE=ZABFmPDdA3Nsx+uP_uG-8Tms44mkx+8rSY=4hg_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 1/14/12, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> MikeG & Listers
>
> MikeG
> you said
>
> "I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the
> last
> ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last
> 12 years that
> is more important (overall) than this Martian. In
> terms of scientific value,
> Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of
> the most important in the 21st
> century."
>
> I would have to agree on Tagish Lake its very important and I would say more
> important then TATA in regards of scientists have no clue which parent body
> it came from, and the presolar grains it has and the large amount of
> nanodiamonds found within the meteorite. With the TATA meteorite, this makes
> about 79 classified meteorite from Mars. In ratio to parent body, thats alot
> of meteorite from one location in space considered science has no clue where
> Tagish Lakes parent body is. So in repect to science, TATA is just another
> Mars meteorite, another one to add to the growing list of Martianites :)
>
> On the other hand, ALMAHATA SITTA is by far the most signficate fall in the
> last 12 years
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> eBay Store
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?
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> [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of
> this century?
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks meteoritemike
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> Thu Jan 12 21:23:07 EST 2012
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> Hi Count and List,
>
> I probably should have clarified -
> the 21st century. So basically the
> last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall
> (pun intended) in the last
> 12 years that is more important (overall) than
> this Martian. In
> terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on
> the list of
> the most important in the 21st century.
>
> If NonCom
> approves it as a fall and if a lot of good research comes
> out of this
> meteorite, then it's
> surely one of the most interesting
> falls of the 50
> years.
>
> Let's all cross our fingers and hope that MetSoc approves this as
> a
> named fall and that they approve it quickly once they have the data
> required to do so. :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
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> On 1/12/12,
> Count Deiro <countdeiro at
> earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>I only know that there are papers published making the
> argument that certain
>
>>SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show
> evidence of fossilized life forms. There are
>
>>other
> scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling artifacts
>
>>and is used more often to prove the hypothesis.
>
>>
>
>>Regards,
>
>>
>
>>Count Deiro
>
>>IMCA 3536
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>-----Original
> Message-----
>
>>>From: dorifry <dorifry at
> embarqmail.com>
>
>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM
>
>>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at
> earthlink.net>, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>
>>><meteoritemike at
> gmail.com>, meteorite-list at
> meteoritecentral.com
>
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> Tata-Foumzgit Martian
> Fall. The most
>
>>>significant fall of
> this century?
>
>>>
>
>>>If life has been
> confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a
>
>>>press conference?
>
>>>
>
>>>Phil Whitmer
>
>>>Joshua Tree Earth
> & Space Museum
>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>
>>>From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at
> earthlink.net>
>
>>>To: "Galactic Stone &
> Ironworks" <meteoritemike at
> gmail.com>;
>
>>><meteorite-list at
> meteoritecentral.com>
>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 12,
> 2012 4:41 PM
>
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit
> Martian Fall. The most
>
>>>significant fall of this century?
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>>Michael has asked:
>
>>>>
>
>>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
> "Tata" fall is the most
>
>>>>>significant meteorite
> fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>
>>>>>last
> 50+ years?
>
>>>>
>
>>>>Not even
> close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed
>
>>>>through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example.
> Witnessed fall. Immediate
>
>>>>collection by experts and
> responsible for stirring the fuel under that
>
>>>>most
> famous of all Martian arguments....is there is, or is there was
>
>>>>..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized
> nanobacteria, biomorphs and
>
>>>>whatever else they found
> last month that is being written up at this
>
>>>>writing.
>
>>>>
>
>>>>Best regards,
>
>>>>
>
>>>>Count Deiro
>
>>>>IMCA 3536
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>-----Original
> Message-----
>
>>>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> <meteoritemike at
> gmail.com>
>
>>>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM
>
>>>>>To: meteorite-list at
> meteoritecentral.com
>
>>>>>Subject:
> [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most
>
>>>>>significant
>
>>>>>fall
> of this century?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Hi List,
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
> "Tata" fall is the most
>
>>>>>significant meteorite
> fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>
>>>>>last
> 50+ years?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>All
> things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
>
>>>>>event for
> science. This is the most pristine
> sample of Mars to arrive
>
>>>>>in labs for a long time,
> if ever. Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
>
>>>>>compare to fresh stones collected less than a
> year after the fall.
>
>>>>>The unbroken stones and
> larger fragments will supply science with
>
>>>>>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research. This
> new Martian is
>
>>>>>going to be widely studied, so I
> hope everyone is getting their
>
>>>>>microprobes warmed
> up in anticipation.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Word has it that institutions and museums have
> been allocated a
>
>>>>>sizeable amount of material in
> terms of trades and donations, so there
>
>>>>>appears
> to be plenty of it available for study. It is safe to say
>
>>>>>that this new meteorite
> (whatever the official
> name turns out to be)
>
>>>>>will appear in a lot of
> papers and journals over time.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>For science, this is the next best thing to a
> manned sample-return
>
>>>>>mission. For collectors this
> is best thing since sliced bread. The
>
>>>>>only thing
> that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
>
>>>>>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a
> Bedouin tent and struck a
>
>>>>>camel in the hump. But,
> you can't have your cake and eat it too. ;)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>So, what is the going consensus on the details of
> this fall?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>TKW - several
> kilograms, probably less than 10kg. Much of this is in
>
>>>>>the form of large whole stones and large broken
> stones and that
>
>>>>>material has been absorbed into
> collections and is not likely to
>
>>>>>return to the
> market. Ballpark figure of material to be available
>
>>>>>eventually on the collector market is probably "a
> few kilos" (2-3kg?)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual
> date - July 25, 2011?
>
>>>>>Other reports say earlier
> in July (13-15?)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Time of fall - day or night? (night?)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Type -
> Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
>
>>>>>veins. Glossy fresh black fusion crust.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Misc - witness
> reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Does all of that
> sound about right?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>Galactic Stone
> & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
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