[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?)
From: Shawn Alan <photophlow_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:57:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1326574635.28687.YahooMailNeo_at_web160115.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MikeG & Listers MikeG? you said ? "I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last 12 years that is more important (overall) than this Martian. In terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of the most important in the 21st century." I would have to agree on Tagish Lake its very important and I would say more important then TATA in regards of scientists have no clue which parent body it came from, and the presolar grains it has and the large amount of nanodiamonds found within the meteorite. With the TATA meteorite, this makes about 79 classified meteorite from Mars. In ratio to parent body, thats alot of meteorite from one location in space considered science has no clue where Tagish Lakes parent body is. So in repect to science, TATA is just?another Mars meteorite, another one to add to the growing list of Martianites :) On the other hand,?ALMAHATA SITTA is by far the most signficate fall in the last 12 years Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century? Galactic Stone & Ironworks meteoritemike at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 21:23:07 EST 2012 ????* Previous message: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century??? ????* Next message: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century??? ????* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ________________________________ Hi Count and List, I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last 12 years that is more important (overall) than this Martian. In terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of the most important in the 21st century. If NonCom approves it as a fall and if a lot of good research comes out of this meteorite, then it's surely one of the most interesting falls of the 50 years. Let's all cross our fingers and hope that MetSoc approves this as a named fall and that they approve it quickly once they have the data required to do so. :) Best regards, MikeG -- ************************************************* Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *************************************************** On 1/12/12, Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote: > > >I only know that there are papers published making the argument that certain >SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show evidence of fossilized life forms. There are >other scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling artifacts >and is used more often to prove the hypothesis. > >Regards, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: dorifry <dorifry at embarqmail.com> >>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM >>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>, Galactic Stone & Ironworks >><meteoritemike at gmail.com>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>significant fall of this century? >> >>If life has been confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a >>press conference? >> >>Phil Whitmer >>Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net> >>To: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; >><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:41 PM >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>significant fall of this century? >> >> >>>Michael has asked: >>> >>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most >>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the >>>>last 50+ years? >>> >>>Not even close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed >>>through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example. Witnessed fall. Immediate >>>collection by experts and responsible for stirring the fuel under that >>>most famous of all Martian arguments....is there is, or is there was >>>..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized nanobacteria, biomorphs and >>>whatever else they found last month that is being written up at this >>>writing. >>> >>>Best regards, >>> >>>Count Deiro >>>IMCA 3536 >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> >>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM >>>>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most >>>>significant >>>>fall of this century? >>>> >>>>Hi List, >>>> >>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian "Tata" fall is the most >>>>significant meteorite fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the >>>>last 50+ years? >>>> >>>>All things considered, this has the makings of a very significant >>>>event for science. This is the most pristine sample of Mars to arrive >>>>in labs for a long time, if ever. Even the freshest NWA finds cannot >>>>compare to fresh stones collected less than a year after the fall. >>>>The unbroken stones and larger fragments will supply science with >>>>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research. This new Martian is >>>>going to be widely studied, so I hope everyone is getting their >>>>microprobes warmed up in anticipation. >>>> >>>>Word has it that institutions and museums have been allocated a >>>>sizeable amount of material in terms of trades and donations, so there >>>>appears to be plenty of it available for study. It is safe to say >>>>that this new meteorite (whatever the official name turns out to be) >>>>will appear in a lot of papers and journals over time. >>>> >>>>For science, this is the next best thing to a manned sample-return >>>>mission. For collectors this is best thing since sliced bread. The >>>>only thing that could have made this fall better, from a collector's >>>>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a Bedouin tent and struck a >>>>camel in the hump. But, you can't have your cake and eat it too. ;) >>>> >>>>So, what is the going consensus on the details of this fall? >>>> >>>>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata") >>>> >>>>TKW - several kilograms, probably less than 10kg. Much of this is in >>>>the form of large whole stones and large broken stones and that >>>>material has been absorbed into collections and is not likely to >>>>return to the market. Ballpark figure of material to be available >>>>eventually on the collector market is probably "a few kilos" (2-3kg?) >>>> >>>>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual date - July 25, 2011? >>>>Other reports say earlier in July (13-15?) >>>> >>>>Time of fall - day or night? (night?) >>>> >>>>Type - Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock >>>>veins. Glossy fresh black fusion crust. >>>> >>>>Misc - witness reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds. >>>> >>>>Does all of that sound about right? >>>> >>>> >>>>************************************************* >>>> >>>>Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) >>>> >>>>Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com >>>>Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my >>>>News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >>>>Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone >>>> >>>>*************************************************** >>>>______________________________________________ >>>>HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! >>>>Visit the Archives at >>>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>>______________________________________________ >>>HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! >>>Visit the Archives at >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>Meteorite-list mailing list >>>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > ________________________________ ????* Previous message: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century??? ????* Next message: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century??? ????* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ________________________________ More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list?????Received on Sat 14 Jan 2012 03:57:15 PM PST |
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