[meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap

From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:11:42 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <8CEBC23B374D7FE-5B8-34DD1_at_webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Mark, everyone,

It's too bad society needs rules but with so many humans overrrunning
the wilderness, the best way to deal with it is work on a responsible
collecting/mining/4-wheeling/detecting/etc. personal policy and
showcase it for all to see - just like Sonny - then regulations are not
zealously pursued and the offended find other causes more urgently in
need and leave us alone.

I hear you, but just like everything we seem to get involved in that is
outdoors, a few bad apples can spoil it for the 90%+ of people who
really are law abidng common sense toting individuals and that is where
the regulators are forced to move, and in this case people that don't
clean up after themselfs, maybe because they died, or some other
possibly easily understandable reason.

There are always people with different priorities and I agree a bird
zealot may seem over the top for a meteorite hunter. But then again, a
miner might not appreciate someone snooping over the above grounds
rights of a meteorite hunter and if enough meteorite hunters are in
areas with mining claims with enough rotten apples acting suspiciously
in a place like Gold Basin for example, the PETA bird zealot becomes
the miner and the meteorite hunter suffers.

Who said, "common sense is not so common". It's been that way since I
was a kid metal detecting. Even going back to the 1960's Handbook of
metal detectors (the only outdated book on detectors I found as a
9-year old in the library, the advice is "cover your holes!" same
principle, same danger, different day ;-)

  Look at the bright side of things. It won't give the bird an
opportunity to evolve into building human tube traps that at night,
lost meteorite hunters who are so cold that they scamper in them for
the crucial welcomed cover thanking their instincts and happily fall
asleep a little cold, but not frozen, only to wake up in the warming
sun to find themselves inside a tomb which allows them to see the sky
but is to slippery to lift themselves out no matter how much they beat
themselves against the solitary confinement, all they while slowly
getting cooked alive in a roman style birdmade oven, until their
shreiks of nervous terror are extinguished by overheating bodies and a
sudden onset of a peaceful dehydration.

Kindest wsiehs
Doug







-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com>
To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; cetuspa <cetuspa at shaw.ca>;
meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 1:14 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap


Hi Count,
They made it illegal to put up uncapped markers, but because nobody did
anything
with the old,?markers that define mostly?defunct claims (which should
have been
an obvious outcome), they made all PVC markers illegal.
?
I think they should still allow?pipe to be used (PVC or otherwise), but
that it
must be capped.? And they?can still allow people to remove (but leave
in place)
any uncapped markers (because they are important boundary markers).? I
think?a
blanket outlawing of?any use of?PVC as a marker is an over reaction.?
There is a
strong anti-mining movement, and it is?sad to give them the excuse to
remove
responsible capped pipes, just because the pipe is PVC and they don't
like
miners.? I think a common sense should be applied.
?
Happy hunting,
Mark


________________________________
From: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
To: cetuspa at shaw.ca; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: PVC death trap

Hi List and nature lovers in general,

Mining provides Nevada with the second largest contribution to our
State's
economy in terms of jobs and money. The finding of ore bodies and the
staking
and recording of those claims is a necessity. The use of white Schedule
40 PVC
pipes evolved from first using Prince Albert tobacco tins to be the
most
efficient and economical way of marking a claim.

Everybody I know likes birds. They look at them. They take pictures of
them.
They paint them, they count them, keep them as pets... and they even
hunt and
eat them. They are a necessity of life certainly.

So, do we have to pass a state mining regulation requiring placing a
$1.49 pvc
cap on the pipe with a couple of taps of a hammer, or a swab of pvc
glue and
save the little birdies? Or is it better to marshal a small army of
PETA types
to spread out into the desert knocking over snd deatroying other
peoples
property markers?

Jesus must weep with the stupidity.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536





-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Paul Gessler <>
>Sent: Feb 17, 2012 8:06 PM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] PVC death trap
>
>That is truly one of the most amazing things I have heard.
>I see those all the time hunting meteorites and never thought
>much of them except that I noticed they disintegrate fast in the sun.
>Obviously not fast enough for these birds. Thank you very much for
>posting this and I too will leave none standing when I come across
>them in the future.? What kind of birds were they? 14 is just sadly
>incredible!
>
>Paul Gessler
>
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