[meteorite-list] HELP PLEASE - PECULIAR METEORITE DISCOVERY....

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:02:24 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-PEdvtMLWX6yNOEuLMAxgi=yXTte08EDVNEuEQQmnXOw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Michael and List,

My thoughts exactly. It's either a strange meteorwrong, or it's a
transported specimen being passed off as a new find. If the owner
would submit a small piece for testing, that would solve the issue
once and for all.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 2/14/12, Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com> wrote:
> What type of "backyard" equipment does this couple have that could
> produce such a perfect cut on an iron meteorite?  Looks to me like a
> previously purchased iron left out to rust a bit.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks, everyone, for the initial wave of responses both on and off list.
>>
>> I've clarified the following two points raised below and have taken a path
>> similar to what Doug mentioned (also below).
>>
>> Hopefully our learning what meteorite this is will prove helpful.   Please
>> circulate as you deem appropriate.
>>
>> Here are the pics.   http://www.flickr.com/photos/darrylpitt/
>>
>>
>> Best/ d
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:06 AM, John higgins wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Folks,
>> >
>> > Sandy Hook is a national Park, regular civilians don't live there. There
>> > are no 75ft escarpments in Sandy Hook. Maybe if the guy said he was from
>> > Atlantic Highlands, that would make more sense..... This story is full
>> > of holes, Daryl please be careful.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards from New Jersey,
>> > John Higgins
>> > IMCA # 9822
>> > www.outerspacerocks.com
>>
>>
>> He is from Highlands, NJ near Sandy Hook.  I remembered the Sandy Hook
>> reference and provided it as a general location in Northeastern, N.J.   I
>> didn't know that Sandy Hook was not also a town.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Pete Pete wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Mike, Daryl!
>> >
>> > I'm trying to imagine a scenario of a house on a ravine, a guy finding a
>> > rusty lump, and the wife persistently tries to throw the lump out in the
>> > garbage(?!) instead of simply heaving it over the fence?
>> >
>> > Doesn't track. Sounds like a scripted story.
>> >
>> > Like we say at work - "The name's Tucker, not sucker!"
>> >
>> > Pete
>>
>>
>> No fence.  (I asked as I was also bewildered).  Reportedly found at the
>> edge of an escarpment.   The wife seems honest and was the one doing the
>> sleuthing here.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:15 AM, MexicoDoug wrote:
>>
>> > "A seemingly honest fellow from Sandy Hook, NJ came to my office late
>> > today in
>> > the hope I could verify what he was told could be a meteorite---and it
>> > is."
>> >
>> > "are honest....but I just don't get it."
>> >
>> > Hi Darryl,
>> >
>> > Either you run with it or you give it back.  But posting the pictures of
>> > the etch pattern should be pretty good evidence of some of the larger
>> > transported falls.
>> >
>> > Lots of explanations could account for the meteorite (the prior owner
>> > died and the rock stayed on the porch --- it's happened before ...etc.),
>> > but if we listen to Jefferson, while it would be easier to believe they
>> > are lying, the facts are what must be established.  What do you have to
>> > lose?  If you don't want to risk time and money, just see if they'll fax
>> > a release giving you permission to have it analyzed and just for your
>> > own protection slip in that they represent in good faith that the
>> > meteorite is their property and presented to you as an unknown for
>> > verification (which you mention is what gives them the right to have it
>> > analyzed since meteorites can be valuble)...
>> >
>> > Good luck, if it's a scam, bring it on.  Let's see those pix...After
>> > all, no obvious match on the etch is great news no matter how you
>> > *slice* it.  If the etch matches a large widely distributed fall, but
>> > they insisted and you wanted out,you could always offer to take a nice
>> > slice to pay your expenses in case it turns out to be common.  Does that
>> > make sense?
>> >
>> > Kindest wishes
>> > Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Darryl Pitt wrote:
>>
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > I need your help; there is a problem here---I'm just not certain as to
>> > its nature.
>> >
>> > A seemingly honest fellow from Sandy Hook, NJ came to my office late
>> > today in the hope I could verify what he was told could be a
>> > meteorite---and it is.
>> >
>> > This fellow said that just after he moved in a year ago, he found it on
>> > the embankment of his backyard just beyond which is a 75 foot
>> > escarpment.  The wife said she tried to throw the rusty thing out a
>> > couple of times and both times he rescued it from the garbage.  It is a
>> > medium octahedrite which weighs 4.236 kg.  How do I know it's a medium
>> >  octahedrite?  I could make out a feint pattern underneath a veneer of
>> > rust on the cut face.  Yes, roughly speaking, this fellow found a cut
>> > and prepared meteorite in his backyard.
>> >
>> > The fellow left the specimen in my possession and agreed to allow me to
>> > have a sample removed and forwarded for analysis. I advised him there
>> > could be a problem here that could be readily determined---and he didn't
>> > seem fazed.  While I've been accused of being naive, I nonetheless
>> > genuinely believe he and his wife are honest....but I just don't get it.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts here?   Northeastern New Jersey.  End piece.  Medium
>> > octahedrite.  4.2 kg.
>> >
>> > I'll get a pic posted tomorrow.
>> >
>> > All best and thanks / d,
>>
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