[meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:40:09 +0200
Message-ID: <D887F37BF6C84E44AF7FA1CFEC1F713A_at_thinkcentre>

Doug, Martin, Yinan, list , -

I'm not an expert in petroglyphics, but I think, taking into consideration
the stylistic differences between some of the graphical elements, Yinan
could be right with his assumption that we have here a kind of palimpsest,
showing different "layers" from (perhaps dramatically) different times.

Above all it's quite difficult for me to verify any possible
meteorite-related form (stellar constellations, maybe).

And, yes of course, Doug: the Pluto-trick is ingenious. As soon as the
interstellar battleships from Beteigeuze arrive and take Venus broadside
under fire with their desintegrator-batteries, we'll lean back comfortably
and have some popcorn. And a bit later: finally the first Venusian
meteorites :-)

Best,
Matthias

----- Original Message -----
From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: <veomega at gmail.com>; <karmaka at email.de>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct


> Very interesting drawings if they are authentic! Gave me a laugh of what
> cultures, primitive or arrogantly thinking themselves "modern" whatever
> modern means to the universe...
>
> The first thing I thought was aliens communicating with primitive man
> through the language of ball-and-stick chemical formulae representations
> ;-) Reminded me of a primitive "Sounds of Earth" golden record, or
> hydrogen plaque on Pioneer (Ha Ha! Pluto gets the last laugh as the
> ninth planet on our only communication with the external orb on the
> subject! Now when the aliens come from uptown to find us, if they ask
> directions, they will be looking on Venus)
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com>
> To: karmaka <karmaka at email.de>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2011 1:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
>
>
> My two cents on this topic:
>
> The pictures are not detailed enough, it's essentially a rorschach test.
>
> Also, there appears to be more than one generation of petroglyphs, in
> the first link (of copied material); the panel on the left appears to
> be a much later generation than the stick-figure petroglyphs to the
> right. So the flying-fish-rocket thing could possibly be only a few
> hundred years old. Just like in Petroglyphs in the American southwest,
> crosses were added by spanish explorers and missionaries a few hundred
> years ago to the classic southwest petros.
>
> -Yinan
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:48 AM, karmaka <karmaka at email.de> wrote:
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> I think I've found pictures of the real petroglyphs in Chifeng, Inner
> Mongolia/Northern China
>>
>>
> http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290543391.jpg
>>
>>
> http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290540581.jpg
>>
> http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290548551.jpg
>>
>> in this Chinese blog (cntv.cn):
>>
>> (machine-translated from Chinese)
>>
>>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cntv.cn%2F10726716-2619901.html[http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cntv.cn%2F10726716-2619901.html]
>>
>> This is another webpage about the petroglyphs from July 2010:
>>
>>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://blog.cntv.cn/10726716-1290534.html[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://blog.cntv.cn/10726716-1290534.html]
>>
>> I'd like to know what you think about the interpretation of the
> petroglyphs?
>>
>> It's sometimes hard to understand the machine-translated English
> text, though.
>>
>> Is there a Chinese speaking list member who could let us know if the
> translation is more or less accurate?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: karmaka <karmaka at email.de>
>> Gesendet: 27.08.2011 23:01:59
>> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
>>
>>>Hi E.P. and list,
>>>
>>>The picture used in the article does show petroglyphs from Irkutsk in
> Russia.
> Thus it was used only for illustration purposes
>>>
>>>http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fw
> ww.gazetairkutsk.ru%2F2010%2F09%2F02%2Fid21881%2F
>>>
>>>http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fr
> us.ruvr.ru%2F2010%2F10%2F21%2F27398750.html
>>>
>>>I would like to see the real ones from .
>>>
>>>Best wishes
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>Von: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
>>>Gesendet: 27.08.2011 22:15:38
>>>An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>Betreff: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
>>>
>>>>Hi all -
>>>>
>>>>http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/08/27/55273149.html
>>>>
>>>>As usual, cometary, so no good hunting for meteorites.
>>>>If I ever locate any of those...
>>>>
>>>>good hunting, everyone
>>>>E.P.
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