[meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:58:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8CE7789BA32AE4D-878-DBCE_at_Webmail-m116.sysops.aol.com> "Would a meteorite that landed on a paved road be considered a hammer stone" By Michael's definition of this concept of "hammer", why would you require the road to be paved? Nothing magic about asphalt. Macadam, gravel, graded dirt; etc. they all work. And for that matter, anything that lands on improved land, so every corn and buckwheat patch is a hammer (or if it goes under, a plow). Now, here's another silly question about a concept when over-used: Does a meteorite have to be a witnessed fall to be a hammer? By witnessed, I don't mean the morning-after kind. Suppose this guy finds a meteor(oid?) snagged in the top of this half kilometer tower he free climbs?: electrifying scientific video: http://io9.com/5639113/ Is it a meteoroid/ite hammer? Now back to maximum silliness; Michael calls the Pena Blanca spgs a hammer, well then, so is Lake Okeechobee's hammerstones , which were dragged up relatively fresh considering from a lake, though never seen falling in. The "lake is 100% dammed up by the Great Wall of Florida (9 meters high and over 225 kilometers in length plus a network of draining canals and natural waterways that have been rerouted) would just be an amorphorous natural swamp. So man's controlling finger is evident and it's not even a witnessed fall! - a first of its kind for a hammer, sort of. Now, if what hits water isn't a hammer, I get first dibs on naming it (beat ya Michael!!!). They are TORPEDOS. Before you scoff at the concept, just remember over 70% of the meteorites landing errrr..... splashing down ... on earth are TORPEDOS! Kindest wishes Doug -----Original Message----- From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang at gmail.com> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 3:16 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone? Would a meteorite that landed on a paved road be considered a hammer stone? Paved roads are 100% man-made, yet?I know of several falls that have been recovered from roads or parking lots and are not referred to as hammer. Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Craig Moody <meteoritesnorth at hotmail.ca> wrote: > > Hello Anne, Michael and List. > > I would have to agree with Anne, in that if it struck the water, and sank to the bottom, then it would not be considered a hammer, however, I assume that if it hit the side of the pool and left physical evidence of that fact, then it would be a hammer. ?This also leads me to ask...does a meteorite have to damage something for it to be a hammer? ?What if they were pea sized individuals (Holbrook) that hit, but left no damage. ?Would they be considered hammer stones? > > Regards, > Craig Moody > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: Impactika at aol.com > > Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:01:57 -0500 > > To: mlblood at cox.net; joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone? > > > > I am sorry Michael, > > > > But how could Pena Blanca be called a hammer?????? > > It struck WATER!! > > > > Anne M. Black > > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > > _IMPACTIKA at aol.com_ (mailto:IMPACTIKA at aol.com) > > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > > > > > In a message dated 11/22/2011 12:52:45 PM Mountain Standard Time, > > mlblood at cox.net writes: > > Hi Phil & All, > > > > Phil's "Subject" box describes Blanca Spring as a "Near-Hammer," > > But I had always heard it fell in a small pond people used as a swimming > > Hole, NOT in a man-made pool resulting from a dam for the express > > Purpose of creating such a swimming pool. > > > > I have swum in such a pool many times at the base of Mt. Lemon > > on property bordering the Sugaro National Forest Park (Not certain of > > the exact name of that park) in the Tucson area. My best friend lived > > On the property and there was clearly a constructed dam to hold water > > For swimming, but low enough to allow the water to continue to flow > > Beyond that by spilling over the dam during the monsoon season. > > > > To my way of thinking a constructed swimming pool is a constructed > > swimming pool regardless of the complexity of construction... A swimming > > pool (that results from construction) is quite different than earlier > > reports I had heard of merely a naturally occurring "swimming hole" > > where a pond lay on someone's property. Therefore, Pena Blanc Spring IS > > a hammer, having struck a man-made object (a man made swimming pool). > > > > Michael > > > > > > On 11/21/11 1:22 PM, "JoshuaTreeMuseum" <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Here's an interesting account of what could have been a multiple death > > > hammerstone incident: > > > > > http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM32/AM32_354.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil Whitmer > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Tue 22 Nov 2011 06:58:12 PM PST |
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