[meteorite-list] Stat. Speaking / killer Hammers / New Concord

From: Frank Cressy <fcressy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:56:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <1321898201.78343.YahooMailRC_at_web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello all,

Every time I see that the New Concord meteorite hit and killed a colt (or
horse), I cringe.? Maybe Kevin K. does the same when he hears that a dog was
killed (or turned to ashes) by a Nakhla stone.?

In 2006 Mark Bostick collected over 15 newspaper accounts about the New Concord
fall.? All these were published shortly after the fall and not one mentions any
animal being killed.? The leading authorities (J. Lawrence Smith, professors
E.B. Andrews and E.W. EVANS of Murietta College) who studied the fall, and who
wrote in great detail of the fall circumstances, mention no horse or animal
being killed even though they wrote that a stone severed a large root, and
others smashed a log, hit a barn and broke a rail of a fence.??It was mentioned
thougth, that a man saw a stone fall THREE FEET FROM HIS HORSE'S HEAD.?


The first reference I can find?about a New Concord equine eliminator is Prior
and Hay's?Second Catalogue of Meteorites published in 1953.? The first catalogue
(1923) makes no mention of this incident.

So I would have to rate this story as another "Legend of the Fall."? To those
who don't agree I'd certainly appreciate them pointing me to the original
reference.

All the best,

Frank

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
To: Met. Anne Black <Impactika at aol.com>; mrmeteorite at gmail.com; Meteorite List
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sun, November 20, 2011 1:05:12 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stat. Speaking / killer Hammers

I am responding using Anne's responses, as they seemed as informative
As the best of the bunch:

REGARDING METEORITES THAT STUCK LIVING CREATURES:

Other than the most famous of all, the 1947 Sylacauga hitting
? ? ? ? Hulitt Hodges and leaving a huge bruise on her side, the
? ? ? ? photo of which is famous, there have been other documented
? ? ? ? Hammers which nailed living critters:

(NOTE: the list below does not include some of the biblical references
? ? ? ? ? ? ? nor the Roman report of a legion being killed)

1860 New Concord Ohio meteorite struck and killed a colt.

1908 TUNGUSKA, Russia killed countless forest animals
? ? ? ? which inevitably inhabited the remote forest which was
? ? ? ? ripped asunder when eighty million trees were blasted,
? ? ? ? left lying on their sides in a radial pattern over an area
? ? ? ? of eight hundred square miles.

1911 Nakhla, Egypt fall reportedly killed a dog. Kevin Kichinka
? ? ? ? wrote a thorough article concluding that the rumor was
? ? ? ? false. However, in a series of heated debates on "The List,"
? ? ? ? Between Kevin and Ron Balke. The latter held his own,
? ? ? ? presenting credible arguments that left at least a crack of
? ? ? ? doubt as to the possibility of regarding the issue. (These
? ? ? ? rousing debates can be read in the List Archives of Meteorite
? ? ? ? Central).

1972 Valera is documented up the yin yang (Darryl Pitt, I believes, owns
? ? ? ? the original, signed and notarized papers on this one).

1992 Dutch Meteorite Society photo of Ugandan boy struck by and
? ? ? ? holding a 3g Mbale meteorite, the force of which had been
considerably diminished having passed through a banana tree
? ? ? ? before striking the boy:
? ? ? ? http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MbaleBoyW.jpg

2003 Park Forrest fall killed a minimum of 2 termites when striking
? ? ? the Garza house. An entomologist attested to the death taking
? ? ? ? place at the time of the impact.

2007 Carancas Peru impact shock force killed a ewe and a llama.


ADDENDUM:

>5. Q. Has any animal ever found a meteorite?
? ? ? ? 2010 Mifflin, Wisconson, a 198g stone was recovered by Sonny
Clary's dog, Brix

? ? ? ? Best wishes, Michael


On 11/19/11 6:25 PM, "Met. Anne Black" <Impactika at aol.com> wrote:

> A few answers below.
>
> Anne M. Black
> http://www.impactika.com/
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
> Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
> http://www.imca.cc/
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2011 6:46:16 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> mrmeteorite at gmail.com writes:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I know there are a lot of people on this forum that know meteorite
> statistics way better than I do. So I thought I'd ask for a little
> help.
> In a week or two I'll be doing an interview for a brand new TV Show
> about stats - my episode will obviously be about meteorite statistics.
> With any luck these questions will go to a scientist (and not me) and
> I can just concentrate on the hunting aspect - which is why I'll
> really be there.
>
> Here are a few basic questions that I should probably know. But....
> I'm not sure if I do. So, if you're feeling like helping - send me an
> email with the correct answers.
>
>
> 1. Q. How many meteorites hit the ground per year?
> A. On average about 1 per square mile per thousand years. About
> 20,000 to 40,000 per year.
>
>>>>>? Are you looking at the planet or ground only? 2/3 of the planet is
> water.
> I think I'll let rob Matson or Sterling answer that one.
>
> 2. Q. Has anyone ever been hit by a meteorite?
> A. I only know of Ann Hodges - Sylacauga, Alabama, USA
>
>>>>>? A young boy was hit lightly by a Mbale fragment ricochet off a tree.
> There were others but mostly fiction.
>
> 3. Q. Has any animal ever been hit by a meteorite?
> A. I'm not sure... there are stories of a dog and a cow being hit...but?
>
>>>>>? Valera did kill a cow. New Concord might have kill a young horse, but
> not verifiable, and the Nakhla dog is most likely fiction.
>
> 4. Q. How often does a city ending meteorite (think Canyon Diablo)
> strike the earth?
> A. ?
>>>>>? How often? I don't know (Sterling????) but Sikhote-Alin could have
> done a lot of damage if it had impacted a city. And how big does it have to
> be to be a city?
>
> 5. Q. Has any animal ever found a meteorite?
> A. Sorry,? I just threw that one in to see if you were paying
> attention....lol
>
>>>>>? You are on your own on that one.
>
> 6. Q. How much in weight does the earth gain per year by all the
> meteorites that enter our atmosphere? Including all, from tiny grain
> of sand meteorites to large bunker-busters.
> A. No clue..........
>
>>>>>? (Sterling????? Rob Matson?????)

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than standing in a garage makes you a car.
? ? ? ? 
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