[meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS / Interior photo?

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:25:58 +0200
Message-ID: <4C498B567C32416A8BFED36C76EAD69C_at_thinkcentre>

So you're walking the paths of William Goldups, Guido, who discovered CM as
an unusual looking dark stone on a walk in/close to Tuscon in 1980. As far
as I know Mr. Goldups' assumption that the stone could have been freshly
fallen at the time he found it, got a scientifical confirmation later,
right?

In any case: you took Bob Haag's footnote (see below) to heart:

"CAT MOUNTAIN, Arizona
This amazing little meteorite was found in 1978 by a Tucson gentleman who
walked through the desert every day to buy his morning newspaper and coffee.
One morning he spotted a small impact crater in the sand, at the bottom of
which lay this rock. He swore up and down it had not been there the day
before, so he picked it up and put in on his mantle, then called me to take
a look. On the exterior it didn't look like any meteorite I'd ever seen, but
you never know, so I offered to take off a tiny sample to look for metal
grains or chondrules. Unfortunately, he refused to let me touch it, so it
sat on his mantle for another eight years until his death, when his son
inherited the stone.

The son took the piece to the University of Arizona mineral museum where
Shirley Wetmore finally convinced him to allow a corner to be ground off,
confirming that it is infact an absolutely unique, anomalous, impact-melt
breccia, one half chondrite, one half achondrite meteorite! You can see the
large clasts of melted H-chondrite surrounded by totally vitrified material.

A footnote: diligent searching of the same area by several different people
turned up one more specimen of Cat Mountain, roughly the size of a pecan,
about 1,000 yards from where the first piece was found, some fifteen years
before. (Hello? Get that? Go back and research places where meteorites have
already been found. You might get very lucky if you know what to look for."

Best as ever,

Matthias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
To: <cdtucson at cox.net>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
<wahlperry at aol.com>; <majbaermann at web.de>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS / Interior photo?


Well... Congratulations Carl. You are the first to let the Cat out of the
proverbial bag. The find (and just a reminder as I have seen some posts, I
never said it was a cold one) is a pairing with Cat Mountain and I hope the
MetSocCom will approve Cat Mountain 001.

It was spotted fifteen minutes into an eyeball hunt on Snyder Hill in late
March not far from the published location of the original find of the late
Mr. William Goldup in the early 1980's.

The area is now extremely trashy and too popular with the kids on bikes and
ATVs. Heavily used dirt paths all over and a four lane paved road and a
subdivision within spitting distance. Someone with better skills than mine,
with a VLF tech detector, might be able to work subsurface and do some good
as this meteorite has substantual metal. The hill has been worked hard since
this find by several hunters with just a few grams of unrelated chondrite
found. Good luck to anyone else going on it.

The interior is a little darker than the exterior and all the white you see
is metal. The interior is as dark as a carbonaceous chondrite. The best way
to describe the exterior is igneous melt with all kinds of blebs and
layers..just like slag. This rock got hammered hard, and repeatedly, in its
cosmic life. That's why the classification carries an S3 to some of it S5
description.

Best for a nice Sunday,

Guido





Extensive hunts over the past ninety days have turned up a few grams of what
appears to be an unrelated chondrite.
-----Original Message-----
>From: cdtucson at cox.net
>Sent: Jul 30, 2011 10:15 PM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, Count Deiro
><countdeiro at earthlink.net>, wahlperry at aol.com, majbaermann at web.de
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS / Interior photo?
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>Guido,
>Wow and congrats.
>Looks a lot like Cat MT. in every way. Also an IMB but, I too have
>questions if you would be so kind to answer.
>In the picture are the white inclusions Metal or silicate material? Also,
>in Cat MT. the interior is as dark as the crust. Is yours the same as well
>or is there a distinct fusion crust color change?
>Thanks.
>Carl
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>---- Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Sure. Sonny,
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>I don't have a problem with showing the interior cut surface. Here is a pic
>of the 22.5 gram full slice that was sent in for classification...and
>appraisal.
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>http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i361/Airmuseum1/OCL5WOS---3-23-11.jpg
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>Count Deiro
>IMCA 3536
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>-----Original Message-----
>>From: wahlperry at aol.com
>>Sent: Jul 30, 2011 4:32 PM
>>To: majbaermann at web.de, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS / Interior photo?
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>>>Hm, this meteorite really looks somehow strange and atypical.
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>>It is very strange. Could you post pictures of the interior cut surface
>>showing the whole meteorite next to the scale cube?
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>>Sonny
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Matthias B??rmann <majbaermann at web.de>
>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; meteorite-list
>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 11:30 am
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS!
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>>These are great news, Count, congratulations! It's a - welcome, I guess
>>;-) - remuneration for your persistence. Hm, this meteorite really
>>looks somehow strange and atypical. But, as we can see: we'd never be
>>too sure.Wish you lots of pleasure with your new guest from the
>>skies,best,Matthias----- Original Message ----- From: "Count Deiro"
>><countdeiro at earthlink.net>To:
>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011
>>11:47 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] SLAGADOCIOUS!> Had a bit of trouble
>>posting this, so excuse me if it's a duplicate...or a > triple!>> Hello
>>Listees,>> Last month, some may recall that I sent out photos depicting
>>a suspicious > looking 108 gram find made 3/23/11 and asking for
>>opinions. The general > consensus was terrestrial and probably slag. I
>>agreed initially with my > respected and more experienced colleagues,
>>but curiosity over traits that > could be seen only by having the
>>specimen in hand overcame my cheapness > and I sent 22+ grams off to be
>>classified.>> Today, I am pleased to announce that the unusal slag like
>>exterior > concealed an extremely fresh (WO/.1) L5 OC with an uncommon
>>petrography. > Efforts are under way to recover additional finds in the
>>field, so I pray > indulgence until we release the location which is in
>>the western USA.>>
>>http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i361/Airmuseum1/METEORITE%20FINDS%202/>>
>>Their out there....good hunting,>> Count Deiro> IMCA 3536>>
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