[meteorite-list] Moon/Earth impact rates

From: John Lutzon <jl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 00:17:49 -0400
Message-ID: <248E45924F1B4556BF5233E4750A2086_at_Home>

Sterling,

My ball-peen hammer and Schwinn are ready to go.

On a serious note, i'm All for trying to figure out what's going on and has
gone "out there"--however, i also believe "we" should fund many more studies
to figure out what has already happened "here". For many years people
discarded the puzzle fit of S. America and Africa--well lo and behold the
Palisades + Europe. Now, just look at the gulf of Mexico--is it possible
that this was a major impact site and the Chicxulub impact was secondary??.

John



----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
To: "John Lutzon" <jl at hc.fdn.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon/Earth impact rates


> John,
>
> You got one of those funny little hammers?
>
> We're running low on those hammers. All the monofuel
> Humvees are checked out for months in advance. However,
> there are five solar-powered inflatable-box RV's sitting
> in the shed having the dust cleaned off. They're available.
>
> They make about 250 klicks a day with their 30 square
> meters of panel. They follow the GPS Autotrails, and if
> you see anything interesting, you can stop and let it
> charge while you bike over and check it out. With those
> high fat knobbly tires, you can cover a lot of ground in
> 0.37 gee just by pedaling.
>
> If you decide to stay out past the 30-day mark of the RV's
> supply inventory, the flyers can drop you a Supply Ball,
> but you have to chase it down after it finishes bouncing!
>
> The RV's hold four, so bring a couple more geologists and
> a paleontologist. Maybe you'll find the first fossil.
>
>
> Sounds good, doesn't it?
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Lutzon" <jl at hc.fdn.com>
> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon/Earth impact rates
>
>
>>I have next weekend open---Beam me up Sterling
>>
>> John
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>;
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 10:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon/Earth impact rates
>>
>>
>>> EP,
>>>
>>>> All the theories in the world added together do not amount to one fact.
>>>
>>> But since we do not have ANY facts about the impact
>>> rates on the Moon (or Mars or Titan or Ganymede or
>>> anywhere at all and only inferential data for our own
>>> home planet), the sum accumulation of facts is... ZERO.
>>>
>>> We ain't got one fact.
>>>
>>> And the contribution of reason / inference from
>>> known quantities amount to considerably more
>>> than zero.
>>>
>>> Am I not the the one who is always saying, about
>>> endless speculation about the geology of Mars or
>>> asteroids, that we will never know until we have
>>> "boots on the ground," 100 geologists on Mars-suits,
>>> carrying those funny little hammers, and scooting
>>> around in monofuel Humvees, living in solar tents?
>>>
>>> Until then...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sterling K. Webb
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:55 PM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Moon/Earth impact rates
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Sterling -
>>>>
>>>> Usually, you are spot on, but in this case...
>>>>
>>>> In fact, no one knows if the Earth sweeps stuff up for the Moon, or the
>>>> Moon pulls in more stuff that hits the Earth. NASA's garbage estimates
>>>> for ELEs are a perfect example of how bad their "modeled" impact
>>>> estimates are; NASA's estimated human ELE rates are even worse - they
>>>> appear to be off by two orders of magnitude.
>>>>
>>>> Earth impact rates need to be determined from Earth data. Then a more
>>>> general model may be worked out, using accretion data from all bodies
>>>> in our solar system.
>>>>
>>>> All the theories in the world added together do not amount to one fact.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the effects of hyper-velocity dust goes, I seem to recall
>>>> parts of Surveyor being examined after lunar surface exposure.
>>>>
>>>> all the best,
>>>> E.P. Grondine
>>>> Man and Impact in the Americas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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