[meteorite-list] Tucson Auction

From: Göran Axelsson <axelsson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:40:00 +0100
Message-ID: <4D67BF40.8030009_at_acc.umu.se>

Very well written!

Keeping the results "secret" will only create doubt in those of us that
put in a absentee bid and couldn't visit (I live in Sweden) or watch the
broadcast (I fell asleep).

This year I had a couple of low bids but didn't win any of them. I've
been a absentee bidder for a couple of years now and won some and lost some.
A couple of times I've put in an absentee bid higher than the winning
bid but didn't win the piece anyhow as Michael made mistakes during the
auction. This have happened more than once for me (2007 3 lots, 2009 2
lots).
If I ask for a list of realised prices in private, what would keep him
from adjusting it according to my bids to keep me in the dark if he made
another mistake. Was it a mistake or did he favour one of his friends?

I say, publish the prices to keep the doubt and mistrust out of the auction.

I don't know if I will make any bids next year. It will probably depend
on if the prices is publicised or not.
The only reason I see to keep the result secret is to keep the auction
as a dealer - dealer event and to keep the prices down. By revealing
that you can get a great deal would attract more bidders.

At least I would like to know the final prices of the following lots. I
also reveal my absentee bids if anyone is interested.

Lot 6 ETw 1 Moss 648mg $45
Lot 71 TM 1 Moldavite $65
Lot 76 DP 2 Lovina (ANOM Iron) $40
Lot 77 DP 3 Hvittis (EL6) $90

/G?ran


John.L.Cabassi wrote:
> G'Day Michael, List and All
> I'm a little perplexed over this statement. You've got to remember that
> this was a live auction, many people viewed it, there were a lot of
> comments made. But why are we trying to hide something here? Aren't we
> trying to be honest? Not even with the buyers, but with the public that
> view this list? We're just adding to meteorite buyers / collectors being
> corrupt. We don't need to hide anything and we don't need to give those
> that frequent these pages fire power to say that we're not legit.
>
> I'm sorry, I disagree with this whole thing. Make it be known, make it
> be public. That's the only way we're going to move forward from being
> negative. That's just my thoughts and not anyone else's. But I'm a
> little concerned about the non-transparency. Bear with me, I'm not out
> to condone anybody, but give it some thought.
>
> Cheers
> John
> IMCA # 2125
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Blood
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:00 PM
> To: Richard Montgomery; Met. Darryl Pitt
> Cc: Meteorite List
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
>
>
> 1) I responded to Darryl off list.
> 2) OK, if anyone wants the results, email me OFF LIST.
> Michael
>
>
>
> On 2/23/11 6:35 PM, "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Darryl makes a monumental point. While, as someone who couldn't
>> attend the auction, I originally asked the List if there was any way
>> to know the final-sales-prices of the auction, hoping I could find
>> them somewhere....Now I suggest that Michael, Capt. Blood, makes them
>> available only off-list by request to avoid publication in a rogue
>> journal or hyped newspaper/journal adventure bent on achieving TV
>> ratings....somehow for those of us who still don't know (I listened to
>>
>
>
>> the whole Ruben-feed but didn't take notes).
>>
>> I know that there will be a bunch of posts about this (no pun
>> intended to our most respected meteoriticist, TB )...
>>
>> Kevin K, what do you think?
>>
>> Respect intended,
>> Richard Montgomery
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>
>> To: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
>> Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Please do consider not publicly posting the auction results---or if
>> you are intent to do so, I urge you to consider making it absolutely
>> clear the auction occurs at a wholesale marketplace and the prices
>> attained reflect the same.
>>
>> The last thing needed is more confusion for the growing legion of new
>> buyers who are exasperated in their efforts to navigate the murky
>> waters of meteorite valuation.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration. All the best / Darryl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Michael Blood wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Finally got everything off - looks like I will survive.....barely.
>>> Soon to come: Auction results/prices
>>>
>>> Here are some goodies:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HAPPY HUNTING! Michael
>>>
>>> All specimens may be seen at:
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BRENHAM ? extremely thin sealed in oil in thick plastic.
>>> This should never rust. Increadable surface area to
>>> Weight. 18.3g ? huge = $275 SALE = $175-
>>>
>>> DEPORT, Tx. This specimen is the 11th specimen collected
>>> In the Monig Collection ? ?1K? (1A sold for $6.5K in the
>>> auction ($25/g) This 41.37g specimen cost me a considerable amount
>>> and is available for $600-
>>>
>>> CAMPO 7.9Kg (This was by far the best specimen in this weight range I
>>>
>
>
>>> saw at the show) and stands nicely on
>>> One side and also stands upright = $600- Sale= $500-
>>>
>>> NWA2737 (Chassignite) Extremely rare 3 sizes: #1 = $35=
>>> #2 or #3 = $45, #4 = $60
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>>
>>> MILLBILLILLIE ? thin with exceptional surface area
>>> #1 = $35
>>> #2 = $40
>>> #3 = $50
>>>
>>> ODESSA Small specimens a little larger than golf balls. These
>>> I have not seen in years and only from the person I got them
>>> From and I got all he had. (Photo shows both sides of each)
>>> 73.5g = $150-
>>> 109.6g = $220-
>>> 112,5g = $225-
>>> 123.1g = $245-
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>>
>>> STANNERN (Eucrite) May 22,1808 Czeck Rep.
>>> #1 = SOLD
>>> #2 = $50-
>>> #3 = $55-
>>>
>>> LIBYAN DESERT GLASS ? Huge speciem
>>> 752.3g = $1,500- SALE = $850-
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>>
>>> CHANGXING China .259g = SOLD
>>>
>>> UNIDENTIFIED NWA 2,612.5g Whole Stone.
>>> 98%+ Fusion Crusted
>>> = 40c/g = $1,045 SALE = under 29c/g = $750
>>>
>>> HENBURY Nice, small specimens with character
>>> = $3/g ? sale = under $2.25/g
>>> 38.2g = $114- SALE = $85-
>>> 67.4g = $202- SALE = $150-
>>> 70.8g = $222- SALE = $159-
>>>
>>> TATAHUINE Superb specimen = $65- SALE $50-
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>> NWA 6355 Lunar Full Slice 14.68g
>>> See full description of this full slice at:
>>>
>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/NWA6355_14_68g
>>>
>>> 14.68g = $700/g (here and elsewhere) = $10,275-
>>> SALE PRICE: under $550/g = $8,000-
>>>
>>> S-A 133.6g = $400- SALE = $275-
>>>
>>> CHICXULUB Micro-Tektites from Haiti in Riker Display
>>> = $40- SALE = $30-
>>>
>>> MUONIONALUSTA
>>> 152g Supurb Etched Full Slice = $1,520- SALE = $750-
>>>
>>> See all specimens at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig"
>>>
>
>
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>>> 2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
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