[meteorite-list] New type of fake moldavite coming soon?
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:28:39 -0400 Message-ID: <8CE1EB17EE03E91-19B4-3AAA7_at_Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Hi Randy - good suggestion! If you don't have a portable gun, A "poor man's probe" might also work by checking some of the physical properties, (1) An appropriately selected hardened steel file would be in the range to scratch soda glass but not a moldavite; (2) The refractive index of a Moldavite is slightly lesser than Soda glass and might be measureable by a cheap Chinese refractometer (3) Moldavites are about 5% lighter than soda glass so if you can measure the volume by displacement, you could rule them out by density. I've often wondered if there is an appropriate temperature to which a moldavite can be safely heated, and then quenched in water or ice water and survive fine. By pushing this test to the limit it could be something that could be done in the kitchen by anyone on the fly. The idea being that soda glass's expansion coefficient is greater and will not survive the quenching and the moldavite will (in all cases ... assuming an 'in all cases' is possible given the variety of natural variations). I haven't compared the expanision vs. temperature of these materials but it's probably easily googleable. I wonder what Norm thinks? Kindest wishes Doug -----Original Message----- From: Randy Korotev <korotev at wustl.edu> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 4:41 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New type of fake moldavite coming soon? Unless these guys have gone to a lot of work making a special glass, I would think the fakes could be easily be distinguished from the real things by composition. Moldavites have less than <1% sodium as Na2O whereas green bottle glass has 13-14%. Similarly, green bottle glass (soda-lime glass) has 9-11% calcium as CaO whereas moldavites have 2-3% CaO. Moldavites have 2-3% iron as Fe2O3 and green bottle glass (7 samples I've analyzed) has 0.1-0.7%. One of those hand held XRF guns should be able to see the differences for Ca and Fe (they won't do Na except in vacuum).? ? Randy Korotev? ? ______________________________________________? Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html? Meteorite-list mailing list? Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com? http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list? Received on Mon 01 Aug 2011 06:28:39 PM PDT |
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