[meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter

From: Richard Montgomery <rickmont_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:54:38 -0700
Message-ID: <1E7D672C192F416AA634242776ABE4DB_at_bosoheadPC>

Hi List,

No doubt I'm aware that 'news'papers edit letter....I was primarily
referring to the degree that context changed from Darryl's precise words.
Adam's advice rings HUGELY true....we should shun the presses that have
agendas: even highly finely crafted words will be slaughtered to bend the
intent. The NYT has been at it for over a decade.

I suspect we all are defending our passion in meteorites to all who've been
asking us (like I've been lately), "Hey, did you see that article about your
meteorites and their black market?"....to which I personally take the golden
opportunity to not only point out the validity of collecting/studying, but
then the invalidity of slanderous NYT publications, but finish with
references and direct links to letters with true un-edited text (thanks Anne
and Darryl, again).

It's just one small drop in the water (but then again so was Tagish lake,
which happened to be frozen)...but it will eventually render hyperbole s**t
journalism to the m-wrong pile.

My salute to all of you!

Richard Montgoemry



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gilmer" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
To: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>
Cc: "Janine Jaquet" <Janine.Jaquet at columbia.edu>; "Meteorite-list List"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Matson, Robert D."
<ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter


> Hi Darryl and List,
>
> You did great on the letter, and newspapers routinely edit such
> letters for content and length. I too have written several in the
> past that have been published and all of them were edited to some
> degree - despite my efforts to make sure such letters pass the Strunk
> & White test. But I do agree with you, Adam and Rob about editing out
> key words and phrases. In a scientific context, a single word can be
> critical and that is why when true scholarly publications do
> occasionally print letters (like MAPS), such letters are not edited
> with a casual hand - they appear in their entirety with their context
> intact. The NYT has amply demonstrated that they have joined the
> same camp as the National Enquirer and should be viewed as such.
>
> And I am not going to automatically hold a writer in higher regard
> because he has a Pulitzer or two. Apparently those don't mean as much
> as they used to, or the award criteria has become more lax.
>
> The damage has been done, but the meteorite community as a whole can
> mitigate further damage by rebutting this nonsense at every
> opportunity. The IMCA has now done so and several key figures in the
> meteorite community have done so. The rest of the rank and file
> collectors and dealers should post comments on blogs, post in forums,
> and send letters to editors - to make sure that the truth of this
> matter is heard.
>
> I don't think this NYT piece was the end of the world as we know it,
> but I don't think it should be trivialized either. Thankfully, the
> general public seems to have forgotten it already. Right after the
> article was published, the link was being widely posted and discussed
> on Facebook. I spent the better part of an entire evening rebutting
> the article in comment threads on Facebook alone. A barrage of emails
> and forum posts followed that. But now the buzz seems to have died
> and I have not seen or heard about it on any of the social networking
> sites since the first day after publication. This is one of those
> cases where the mass public's short attention span is a blessing. ;)
>
> Best regards and happy huntings,
>
> MikeG
>
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>
> On 4/12/11, Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So appreciated.
>>
>> Exactly right....and truth be told, I was embarrassed..Janine had to calm
>> me
>> down a bit this morning. ;-)
>>
>> All they had to do was leave in the term "hot" deserts and it would have
>> been fine.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, thank you, Rob!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> The main problem with the Times' editing of Darryl's submission is that
>>> they altered his factually correct letter into an inaccurate (or at
>>> best,
>>> misleading) one. The following sentences appeared in the Times' edited
>>> version:
>>>
>>> "As a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and others, 32
>>> specimens from Mars and 43 specimens from the Moon have been discovered
>>> in the deserts since the mid-1990s. The number of such specimens
>>> recovered by scientists beforehand? Not one. Since the mid-1990s?
>>> Just four."
>>>
>>> Now compare this with what Darryl actually submitted:
>>>
>>> " ... as a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and
>>> others,
>>> 32 istinct specimens of Mars and 43 distinct specimens of the Moon, as
>>> well as other exotic samples, have been discovered in the hot deserts
>>> since the mid-1990s---all of which have undergone study. Conversely, not
>>> one such specimen was recovered by scientists IN THESE REGIONS [emphasis
>>> mine] before this time, and since then scientists have recovered only
>>> four such specimens."
>>>
>>> This significant error of omission invites researchers "in-the-know" to
>>> accuse Darryl of being uninformed, and by inference unfairly calling
>>> into question his credentials for opining on the subject. This is the
>>> problem with journalists uneducated in scientific disciplines -- they
>>> don't appreciate the nuances introduced by the seemingly harmless
>>> removal of a word here, or a short phrase there. The sciences are not
>>> like prose: every word is usually there for a reason.
>>>
>>> --Rob
>>>
>>>
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