[meteorite-list] AD - Planetarium school trip fundraiser

From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <839530.92224.qm_at_web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

My daughters school is trying to plan a trip to the Catawba Valley Science Center and Planetarium. http://catawbascience.org/

Budget cuts will not allow the school to cover the $12.50 per child cost for the 34 students in 2nd grade that would attend.

I know I have done my AD for the week, but would really like to send them. I take my kids all the time and I know the students would have a great time.
That said, I need to raise $425 to send the two second grade classes to the science center.

Check out my ebay listings and make offers off list for off ebay sales (fees will only take money away from the cash I will have to give)
You can see my listings here:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1

Please make sure to use "School Fundraiser" in the email subject or just reply to this (off list)
Thanks,


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Thunder Stone <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
> To: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, photophlow at yahoo.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 1:16 PM
>
> I collect meteorites that are odd in any way.? It could be
> the type, where it was found, the shape or anything that
> makes it interesting to show and talk about.? To me a fresh
> fall that's an OC may be a lot more desirable than an
> achondrite.? Or an OC that has a very unique shape may be
> preferred.? I have an Iron that has hammer marks on it (it
> was used to hammer stuff), that makes it unique to me.? If
> you collect meteorites as investments - you need to do
> research and find ones that maintain the highest demand.
>
> The one thing that has always bothered me (mostly with
> NWA's) is the vast amount of conflicting information (ie
> Martian finds).? I just wish there was a better way for the
> meteorite finds and (falls) to be properly accounted for and
> better documented.
>
> Greg S.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:19:03 -0700
> > From: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;
> photophlow at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired
> to NWA 5400 !
> >
> > >> the difference between NWAs and all the other
> falls is that NWA nobody knows where the strewn fields are.
> >
> > Same can be said for many US falls when strewnfields
> are likened to gold claims and the data is kept secret.
> > The strewnfield for Whetstone is still not known
> publicly or even listed in the metbul. You may have 5-10
> people in a small collective who know and that is it.
> >
> > Then take other finds where people intentionally
> provide wrong co ordinates to keep others from finding
> material (as pointed out recently on here)
> >
> > The world of meteorites is very secretive and the
> major focus for many is purely the money to be made.
> >
> > Its not about TKW, its not about actual rarity. Hell,
> Whetstone is the most common type of meteorite and yet
> people are asking for more per gram then an angrite sells
> for currently!
> >
> > At the end of the day, meteorites and values are more
> based on who has the material, who has access to the
> material and strewnfield and how much can be made off it.
> >
> > Almahatta Sitta is another great example. One dealer
> has it and can set the price to what they wish. When asked,
> they would not even give a discount for a state college to
> obtain a sample for study... If thats not about the money
> and not the science, I dont know a better example to offer.
> >
> >
> > Greg Catterton
> > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
> > IMCA member 4682
> > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
> > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Shawn Alan? wrote:
> >
> > > From: Shawn Alan
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS
> paired to NWA 5400 !
> > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 11:45 AM
> > >
> > > Adam wrote:
> > >
> > >
> ***********************************************************************************
> > >
> > > This issue is not unique to NWA meteorites. The
> same thing
> > > could be said for
> > > Antarctic or other desert finds. Yes, Antarctica
> is a
> > > desert. The same issue
> > > applies to falls. How much Allende is really out
> there?
> > > Nobody knows for sure,
> > > the same can be said for Murchison. You can make
> the same
> > > claim for just about
> > > any fall.
> > >
> > >
> ***********************************************************************************
> > >
> > > Adam the difference between NWAs and all the
> other falls is
> > > that NWA nobody knows where the strewn fields
> are. As for
> > > the rest, there is data on strewn fields and
> correct
> > > documentation that is used to asses the fall or
> find.
> > >
> > > But with a NWA I find that people say that only
> buy my NWA
> > > because its the real deal and the pairs are
> inferior. The
> > > problem with that is with NWAs are collected and
> through out
> > > the months or year the same meteorite gets
> recycled back to
> > > dealers and in a since every NWA stone has to be
> classified
> > > cause of the collection process.
> > >
> > > Good example is NWA 2999, I think this meteorite
> has 2
> > > other pairings if not more and think how many
> pairs it will
> > > have in a few years from now? And another good
> example is
> > > NWA 5400 which could have a few pairs, which are
> very
> > > likely.
> > >
> > > Now when people bank of there NWA as being rare
> cause of
> > > low TKW it seems that it this could be misleading
> cause of
> > > the circumstances that NWAs present to science
> and they way
> > > they are collected.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shawn Alan
> > > IMCA 1633
> > > eBaystore
> > > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA
> 5400 !Adam
> > > Hupe raremeteorites at yahoo.com
> > > Tue Sep 28 09:22:26 EDT 2010
> > >
> > >
> > > Previous message: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA)
> IS paired
> > > to NWA 5400 !
> > > Next message: [meteorite-list] NEW RELEASE - The
> Day the
> > > Meteorite Fell in Sylacauga
> > > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject
> ] [
> > > author ]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shawn wrote:
> > >
> > >
> *****************************************************************
> > >
> > > Now the slight problem I have with NWA's is that
> you really
> > > don't know how much
> > > of that stuff is out there. That can work in your
> favor and
> > > against you. So
> > > lets say you found an NWA and its about 1000g and
> you get
> > > it tested and its a
> > > new NWN. Now you can say its rare because there
> is only
> > > 1000g, but do you
> > > really know that for sure? From what I have seen,
> its not
> > > the case, and NWAs
> > > keep getting paired with each other more time
> then not....
> > > I think that's why I
> > > tend to stay away from NWA's for that reason and
> others.
> > >
> > >
> ****************************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > > This issue is not unique to NWA meteorites. The
> same thing
> > > could be said for
> > > Antarctic or other desert finds. Yes, Antarctica
> is a
> > > desert. The same issue
> > > applies to falls. How much Allende is really out
> there?
> > > Nobody knows for sure,
> > > the same can be said for Murchison. You can make
> the same
> > > claim for just about
> > > any fall. I have seen collectors financially
> burned on
> > > falls many times, myself
> > > among them. I have lost more value by collecting
> new falls
> > > than I have
> > > collecting finds. This is why I tend to stay away
> from new
> > > falls. The price
> > > drops off sharply within a few months once the
> initial
> > > excitement disappears.
> > >
> > >
> > > I lost a small fortune on New Orleans and Claxton
> by
> > > letting the market
> > > determine the value by putting them up for
> auction with no
> > > reserves.
> > >
> > > Happy Hunting, Long live the finds because
> without them we
> > > would have no lunar
> > > meteorites,
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Previous message: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA)
> IS paired
> > > to NWA 5400 !
> > > Next message: [meteorite-list] NEW RELEASE - The
> Day the
> > > Meteorite Fell in Sylacauga
> > > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject
> ] [
> > > author ]
> > >
> > >
> > > More information about the Meteorite-list mailing
> list
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Greg S and Listers,
> > >
> > > Now the slight problem I have with NWA's is that
> you really
> > > don't know how much of that stuff is out there.
> That can
> > > work in your favor and against you. So lets say
> you found an
> > > NWA and its about 1000g and you get it tested and
> its a new
> > > NWN. Now you can say its rare because there is
> only 1000g,
> > > but do you really know that for sure? From what I
> have seen,
> > > its not the case, and NWAs keep getting paired
> with each
> > > other more time then not.... I think that's why I
> tend to
> > > stay away from NWA's for that reason and others.
> Plus it
> > > seems that every meteorite is unique in its own
> right and
> > > some bank off that uniqueness and rarity to pump
> up the
> > > price in the NWA market. But once more is found,
> that type
> > > isn't that rare anymore, so that's why I stick
> with the
> > > historic falls, cause that event can only happen
> once and
> > > there is a rich history and legacy to back up
> that
> > > meteorite.
> > >
> > > Also the NWA 5400 is speculated to have a
> connection with
> > > Earth. Now in my own opinion if this was the find
> of the
> > > century, wouldn't you think there would be more
> research
> > > papers written about this monumental find that
> some people
> > > praise it to be? All I can find are 2 papers and
> the
> > > second paper doesn't even seem that promising.
> Good
> > > example is Almahata Sitta. That meteorite has
> been around
> > > since NWA 5400 and there is so much information
> and papers
> > > upon papers about this meteorite, and the
> research hasn't
> > > stop, but for the NWA 5400, its is a trickle, 2
> papers
> > > whats up with that? Again, the evidence isnt
> there and a
> > > swashy thought out theory, which other theories
> have been
> > > brough up about the NWA 5400 and where it came
> from, more
> > > evidence please.
> > >
> > > But at the end of the day people have their
> reasons why
> > > they collect and some are drawn to
> classifications and
> > > others to historic falls. The good thing for any
> collector
> > > is to do research and learn what they are going
> to buy
> > > before they buy it. Also they learn alot more
> about
> > > meteorites in the process and gain a since of
> understanding
> > > of where meteorites came to be.
> > >
> > > If any one has the time, check out this link
> below, its a
> > > great paper written by Ursula B. Marvin,
> explaining
> > > the beginning of meteorites from a historical
> and
> > > scientific perspective.
> > >
> > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996M%26PS...31..545M
> > >
> > > Shawn Alan
> > >
> > > IMCA 1633
> > > eBaystore
> > > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA
> 5400
> > > !Thunder Stone stanleygregr at hotmail.com
> > > Mon Sep 27 18:48:32 EDT 2010
> > >
> > >
> > > Previous message: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA)
> IS paired
> > > to NWA 5400 !
> > > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject
> ] [
> > > author ]
> > >
> > >
> > > Wow - this is making my head spin.? It is my
> understanding
> > > that the O isotope data is necessary to show the
> > > relationship to the early earth-type rocks; it
> has to fall
> > > on the TFL.? I would think this is necessary
> to prove a
> > > "pairing" to NWA 5400.? Until then, it is
> not 100%
> > > certain.? The fact that NWA 6292 IS paired
> to 5400 suggests
> > > that there could be more of this unique meteorite
> out there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just my thoughts,
> > >
> > > Greg S.
> > >
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