[meteorite-list] nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363

From: Richard Kowalski <*damoclid_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <717374.63233.qm_at_web113616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> · damoclid_at_meteoritecentral.com

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Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081
--- On Fri, 10/1/10, Norbert Classen <riffraff at timewarp.de> wrote:
> From: Norbert Classen <riffraff at timewarp.de>
> Subject: [meteorite-list]  RE: nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363
> To: "'habibi abdelaziz'" <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>, "'meteorite list'" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 3:34 PM
> Hi Aziz, and All,
> 
> Yes, I can confirm that I received all the data from Dr.
> Jambon in the
> meantime, including the O-isotope data, and there seems to
> be no doubt that
> NWA 5400 and the stone classified by Dr. Jambon (NWA 5363)
> are actually
> paired. The O-isotope ratios plot very close to the TFL
> (terrestrial
> fractionation line), and the mineral compositions for
> olivine, orthopyroxene
> and clinopyroxene do also match closely.
> 
> Thanks to Dr. Jambon for providing these data.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Norbert Classen
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> 
> hi all,
> 
> albert wrote today to me.
> he said,
> '''''''''''''''''''''''''
> 
> I did write to Norbert. He has the data now. .
> 
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> 
> thanks albert for your effort and your help ; and thanks
> norbert for helping
> this issue to move on to ?the good way.
> do we have this? data now
> all the best
> 
> aziz habibi
> 
> 
> > ----- Message transf?r? ---- De : Norbert Classen
> <riffraff at timewarp.de>
> ?
> : 
> >habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>;
> meteorite list 
> ><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Envoy? le : Mer 29 septembre 
> >2010, 23h 11min 20s Objet : AW: [meteorite-list] nwa
> 5400 pairing to 
> >nwa 5363 Dear Aziz & All, You wrote: > he said
> too that he has given 
> >all the data that confirm > the pairing including
> the isotope to 
> >norbert classen in > end june where they talk abaout
> this and as i 
> >asked him > to do so. Maybe there's a slight
> misunderstanding here. I 
> >actually emailed with Dr. Jambon in June, and we also
> intended to meet 
> >at the Ste. Marie Show at the end of June where Dr.
> Jambon wanted to 
> >show me all the data (including the O-isotope data).
> However, 
> >unfortunatelly we missed each other at the show, and so
> the meeting 
> >didn't take place. Don't get me wrong, I have no reason
> to doubt Dr. 
> >Jambon's word on this - I just wanted to get the facts
> straight. Maybe 
> >you misunderstood Dr. Jambon? But up to this day I
> haven't seen the 
> >O-isotope data for NWA 5363. All I have seen is a
> writeup on NWA 5363 
> >which didn't include the O-isotope data. Again, that
> doesn't mean much, 
> >and I'm also looking forward to the official
> publication of NWA 5363. 
> >This will hopefully answer all the questions. We all
> need to remember 
> >that meteorite classification (including the voting
> process on new 
> >meteorites at the NomCom of the Meteoritical Society)
> takes time. So we 
> >as collectors should, IMHO, be patient, and wait with
> conclusions until 
> >the scientific work has been done and published. All
> the best, Norbert 
> >-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- hi all and i m happy
> that this issue 
> >is becoming a very polit and civilised discussion; well
> 3 months that i 
> >do not want to get caught inside this discussion any
> more, but well 
> >this is becoming repeated to a point that we forget
> what the debat is 
> >about, for nwa 5363; i get a talk on albert jambon
> mobile , i asked him 
> >that many dealers or collectors still think that nwa
> 5400 is not paired 
> >to nwa 5363 and he answered me this. he said that he
> have submited to 
> >the nomcom all the information, and he coudln't have
> said that they are 
> >paired if he haven't done isotope so clearly he?
> indicate that he has 
> >done isotope and have submited them to the nomcom dr
> wisberg or so , 
> >its on the phone. and? he said he is surprised why the
> nomcom didn't 
> >pubilsh them yet, he said too that he has given all the
> data that 
> >confirm the pairing including the isotope to norbert
> classen in end 
> >june where they talk abaout this and as i asked him to
> do so. so i ask 
> >here do we have any guy from the nomcom here , please
> end this torture 
> >and tell us if you have this data or not,and why you
> didn't publish 
> >them. thanks aziz habibi
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