[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:48:23 -0500
Message-ID: <SNT102-W1249815935E6B65E9760ADA2F20_at_phx.gbl>

Sonny,
 
You can spin it any way you like. Your lengthy chain of events should include, "We spent a minute talking to the guys that were there first and they agreed that it would be a pleasure for all of us to search together". One minute of courtesy goes a long way. There were at least 3 hours of daylight left.
 
I met several well known hunters on land that they claimed to have secured and was told in no uncertain terms to beat it. I did. Next time I'll remember your code of conduct.
 
Bill
 


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> To: parkforestmet at hotmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:26:20 -0400
> From: wahlperry at aol.com
>
> Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much
> differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with little
> time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2
> guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning over
> a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I approached
> the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS
> the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of his
> ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his
> son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the
> house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends
> and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and
> said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove down
> to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner
> greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We
> discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for
> his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the
> property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember
> this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of
> sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to
> plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of
> dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and hotel.
> We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short
> days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will
> present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that
> evening.
>
> Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following morning
> we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few minutes
> joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something
> if it was such a big deal.
> It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not
> you.
>
> Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other posts
> to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time
> talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of
> the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please enlighten
> me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let us
> know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may be
> a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the
> planting going on there is a good chance the material may be lost
> forever.
>
> And as for Georgia, you're right my heart belongs to Georgia.
>
> Sonny
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill kies
> To: wahlperry at aol.com
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
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> Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on cobbs
> and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that of
> Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us
> like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we
> had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was
> so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members
> was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned
> the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door
> trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat on
> the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all
> you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will
> tell. ----------------------------------------> To:
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00
> -0400> From: wahlperry at aol.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin
> Meteorite Hunt.>> Hi All,>> I just returned from my second hunt in
> Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9> days in the field. I really enjoyed
> spending time with the other> hunters and got to know some of the
> locals too.> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I have
> ever> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow
> you to> hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had> a chance to
> milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark> Fries for the
> great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and> Karl Aston
> played a major role in gaining> access to hunt many of the properties.
> These 2 guys are awesome. What> really made this trip enjoyable was
> spending time with everyone> hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was
> able> to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog)
> and the> other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is 366.4
> grams. I> hope to post pictures from the hunt on my> website within the
> next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered> is simply not
> true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of> ground )
> only 2 stones were recovered.> On the previous hunt with 10 guys
> hunting only 4 stones were recovered.> By far, the best complete stone
> I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another> kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner
> for his> magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding
> finds.>> Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further
> recovery> of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice to
> compile a> list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW> so far.>>>
> Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field.>> Sonny>
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