[meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 "The King ofAngrites" for sale -...

From: Mark Ford <mark.ford_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:17:22 +0100
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No, the reverse - I think the quote actually means science has a lot
more 'faith' to it than most people realise!

Especially true these days..

Mark

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Funny, I never realized there was "proof" of what faith believes. Only
conjecture and subjective interpretation of observation.

Eric


On 7/23/2010 12:52 AM, Mark Ford wrote:
> Good quote.
>
> I also like:
>
> "Science is almost the same as faith, but just sometimes, once in a
> while, the level of required proof is taken up a notch"
>
> Mark
>
>
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> LINDH
> Sent: 23 July 2010 04:31
> To: gmhupe at htn.net
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> ofAngrites" for sale -...
>
>
>
> Hello Greg,
>
> I've always loved science, but I do think that some in the
scientific
> community tend to stretch things a bit thin sometimes. All kinds of
> theories about all kinds of things are thrown around with little to
> support them. This reminds me of a quote by Mark Twain. The quote
> follows:
>
> "There is something fascinating about science. One gets such
> wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of
> fact."
>
> Something to think about....
>
>
> Greg Lindh
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: gmhupe at htn.net
>> To: DRose at emersonhosp.org
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:51:24 -0400
>> CC: jgrossman at usgs.gov; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 "The King of
>>
> Angrites" for sale -...
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Isn't 'science' just that, "Science"... Ever evolving as ground truth
>> comes in? Without open minds and hard work by many dedicated
>> individuals, 'science' would not get very far, especially in the
world
>>
>
>> of meteortitics! Much of the initial work and/or thoughts are
educated
>>
>
>> suggestions which are meant to excite others in rational and
sometimes
>>
>
>> heated discussions, no matter what scientific focus is being
>> discussed. I won't even bring up the evolution talks of the past...
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg Hupe
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:00 AM, "Rose, David MD"<DRose at emersonhosp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I agree with Jeff completely. Same thing happens in Medicine. And
>>> even when the data is peer reviewed, that doesn't mean that it is
>>> rock solid truth. It's a process of continual evaluation and
>>> refinement.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Grossman
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:40 AM
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>>> Angrites" for sale -...
>>>
>>> Yikes! Abstracts to meetings are not peer reviewed!
>>>
>>> jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/2010 10:05 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jason and List,
>>>>
>>>> I do not refute Melinda Hutson's article that was never peer
>>>> reviewed and
>>>> contains several errors according to the classifying scientists. I
>>>> asked
>>>> scientists about the article and they stated, it is obvious that
>>>> she didn't read
>>>> the original peer reviewed abstract carefully, even mistaking the
>>>> type of
>>>> petrology that was discussed using formulas that simply do not
>>>> apply to the
>>>> texture NWA 2999 exhibits.
>>>>
>>>> There were several prestigious coauthors listed in the original
>>>> paper; Unique
>>>> Angrite NWA 2999: The Case For Samples From Mercury.
>>>>
>>>> Who am I to argue with the world's best? I will keep an open mind
>>>> and hope for
>>>> some ground truth that will hopefully settle it once and for all.
>>>> I think the
>>>> authors were making a point of having an open mind and that the
>>>> subject should
>>>> be debated possibly stimulated more scientific interest in
>>>> Angrites. It took a
>>>> long time to win over the scientific community that some of these
>>>> meteorites
>>>> were actually from Mars. It was debated to death and now nobody
>>>> argues about
>>>> the Shergottite parent body any more.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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