[meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:52:37 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0tn8T-8Dgcq6XVAMdZ7tg-CjzoxRsNpgBC4Rr_at_mail.gmail.com>

If anyone has a photo of the big 83kg individual with regmaglypts,
please share it with the list. :)


On 7/13/10, Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:
> Whoops, completely right, sorry.
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> oh,i know this.
>> That was not my question!!
>> The mail was from Mr. Altmann.
>>
>> Many dear greetings Mirko
>>
>>
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>> --- Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 13.7.2010:
>>
>>> Von: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6
>>> metric tons!?!?
>>> An: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Datum: Dienstag, 13. Juli, 2010 15:22 Uhr
>>> Hello Mirko, All,
>>> That's just not true at all - plenty of irons have seen
>>> plastic
>>> deformation without becoming ataxites.
>>>
>>>
>>> Seymchan:
>>>
>>> http://www.carionmineraux.com/mineraux/Mineraux_Juillet_aout_2008/meteorite_seymchan_1.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.imca.cc/insights/2007/II06-img/Seymchan.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Henbury:
>>>
>>> http://www.minresco.com/meteor/meimages/me606d.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Uruacu:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-PRICE-URUACU-IRON-METEORITE-BRAZIL-END-CUT-804-GMS-/200446229790?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eab86bd1e#ht_1622wt_906
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-PRICE-URUACU-IRON-METEORITE-BRAZIL-END-CUT-514-GMS-/200421205241?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eaa08e4f9#ht_1579wt_906
>>>
>>>
>>> - I've also seen examples of similar features in
>>> Sikhote-Alin,
>>> Boxhole, Gibeon, and Campo del Cielo.
>>>
>>> Plastic deformation due to impact does not result in the
>>> complete loss
>>> of widmanstatten pattern. The only plastically
>>> deformed ataxites that
>>> lack any true pattern (that I can think of) are Chinga
>>> (deformed
>>> schlieren) and this new Egyptian iron, neither of which
>>> appear to have
>>> had widmanstatten patterns before entering the atmosphere.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Martin Altmann
>>> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> > But is there a finest octahedrite among the chemical
>>> IAB/IIICD-complex....?
>>> > And are there coarsest octahedrites to be found among
>>> the IVAs?
>>> >
>>> > I think, it's quite reasonable, not to give a
>>> structural type at that point
>>> > of time for the Egypt iron, if there were only
>>> shrapnels found, respectively
>>> > analyzed.
>>> > Shrapnels by their nature are always ataxitic.
>>> >
>>> > Or was meanwhile a not so damaged individual found and
>>> examined?
>>> >
>>> > Best!
>>> > Martin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> > Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>>> Im Auftrag von Jeff
>>> > Grossman
>>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2010 13:48
>>> > An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is
>>> official now - 1.6 metric
>>> > tons!?!?
>>> >
>>> > "Ataxite" is a structural term, like octahedrite and
>>> hexahedrite.
>>> > Modern classification of iron meteorites is based on
>>> the chemical group,
>>> > which can tell you something about the parent
>>> asteroid. The structural
>>> > classification is quasi-independent of the chemical
>>> classification,
>>> > inasmuch as members of each structural group can
>>> belong to multiple
>>> > chemical groups. So "ataxite" has not been replaced
>>> with "iron,
>>> > ungrouped." Both are correct.
>>> >
>>> > When I used to edit MetBull, the heading on the
>>> description of this
>>> > meteorite would have said "Iron, ataxite (ungrouped)",
>>> but other editors
>>> > have abandoned this.
>>> >
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>> >
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