[meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:19:55 -0700
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Whoops, completely right, sorry.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> oh,i know this.
> That was not my question!!
> The mail was from Mr. Altmann.
>
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> --- Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 13.7.2010:
>
>> Von: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?
>> An: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Datum: Dienstag, 13. Juli, 2010 15:22 Uhr
>> Hello Mirko, All,
>> That's just not true at all - plenty of irons have seen
>> plastic
>> deformation without becoming ataxites.
>>
>>
>> Seymchan:
>>
>> http://www.carionmineraux.com/mineraux/Mineraux_Juillet_aout_2008/meteorite_seymchan_1.jpg
>>
>> http://www.imca.cc/insights/2007/II06-img/Seymchan.jpg
>>
>>
>> Henbury:
>>
>> http://www.minresco.com/meteor/meimages/me606d.jpg
>>
>>
>> Uruacu:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-PRICE-URUACU-IRON-METEORITE-BRAZIL-END-CUT-804-GMS-/200446229790?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eab86bd1e#ht_1622wt_906
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-PRICE-URUACU-IRON-METEORITE-BRAZIL-END-CUT-514-GMS-/200421205241?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eaa08e4f9#ht_1579wt_906
>>
>>
>> - I've also seen examples of similar features in
>> Sikhote-Alin,
>> Boxhole, Gibeon, and Campo del Cielo.
>>
>> Plastic deformation due to impact does not result in the
>> complete loss
>> of widmanstatten pattern.? The only plastically
>> deformed ataxites that
>> lack any true pattern (that I can think of) are Chinga
>> (deformed
>> schlieren) and this new Egyptian iron, neither of which
>> appear to have
>> had widmanstatten patterns before entering the atmosphere.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Martin Altmann
>> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>> wrote:
>> > But is there a finest octahedrite among the chemical
>> IAB/IIICD-complex....?
>> > And are there coarsest octahedrites to be found among
>> the IVAs?
>> >
>> > I think, it's quite reasonable, not to give a
>> structural type at that point
>> > of time for the Egypt iron, if there were only
>> shrapnels found, respectively
>> > analyzed.
>> > Shrapnels by their nature are always ataxitic.
>> >
>> > Or was meanwhile a not so damaged individual found and
>> examined?
>> >
>> > Best!
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>> Im Auftrag von Jeff
>> > Grossman
>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2010 13:48
>> > An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is
>> official now - 1.6 metric
>> > tons!?!?
>> >
>> > "Ataxite" is a structural term, like octahedrite and
>> hexahedrite.
>> > Modern classification of iron meteorites is based on
>> the chemical group,
>> > which can tell you something about the parent
>> asteroid. ?The structural
>> > classification is quasi-independent of the chemical
>> classification,
>> > inasmuch as members of each structural group can
>> belong to multiple
>> > chemical groups. ?So "ataxite" has not been replaced
>> with "iron,
>> > ungrouped." ?Both are correct.
>> >
>> > When I used to edit MetBull, the heading on the
>> description of this
>> > meteorite would have said "Iron, ataxite (ungrouped)",
>> but other editors
>> > have abandoned this.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> >
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