[meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????

From: drtanuki <drtanuki_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 02:07:32 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <804523.77744.qm_at_web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear Steve and List,

Here is a photo of Robert Ward with section of tile with a hole.

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/01/6jan2010-meteormeteorite-news.html

Holey ceiling tiles! Springs bar still wonders what hit it
Denver Post
By The Gazette Meteorite hunter Robert Ward holds a ceiling tile from the Red Rock Lounge. (Mark Reis, The Gazette ) COLORADO SPRINGS ? Mystery still ...

  Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

--- On Wed, 1/6/10, Steve Dunklee <sdunklee72520 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Dunklee <sdunklee72520 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery?????
> To: "meteoritecentral" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, "Gary Chase" <garychase at live.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 7:00 PM
> gee boing bomb is not going to make a
> loud boom heard 3 blocks away. a friend of mine has a 3 inch
> cannon? but the last time he shot it it disrupted cell
> phone service, almost caused several auto accidents and
> resulted in having his house surrounded by the local police
> who asked " Mr Boyde could you please come out of your
> house?" his projestile was a wad of wet newspapers.
> ? Chris? Petersons explaination while having some
> merrit is not supported by scientific fact. sonic booms
> travel at the speed of sound and the time it takes the boom
> to reach you depends on your distance from the event, and a
> lot of other factors, like cannon balls traveling at over
> the speed of sound under 4 inches make no sonic boom. just a
> kind of whizzing whooshing sound. and smaller objects like
> bullets only make a buzzing sound like a bee even at 4 times
> the speed of sound.
> ? a meteorite falling over Colorado on the plane of
> the ecliptic at 11:35 pm would have been a near verticle
> fall only taking about 4 to 5 seconds from the time it
> entered earths atmosphere till it impacted with the ground.
> or exploded in the air. the shock wave in front of it would
> have created a vacume in its tail which may have allowed a 3
> inch stone or iron to be cradled in an envelope trailing the
> main mass which was destroyed. in the same way that unburned
> gunpowder is found on the victims of gunshots at bullet
> velocities of 3k fps or more. the speed of sound you must
> know is only about 750 fps and depends on air pressure,
> humidity, temp, and the size of the object.
> ???there was an f15 eagle crashed near my
> house several years ago. a sonic boom traveling 3 minutes at
> the speed of sound by Mr? Petersons reasoning at close
> to 7 seconds a mile should be heard around 25 miles away.
> there has to my knowlege never been heard a boom more than 9
> miles away because the curve of the earth doesnt allow it to
> reach the ground.
> ? are there any volunteers from the list that want to
> sit on an artillary range and listen for the sonic boom of
> an incomming 144mm? faster than sound shell? i hope not
> because they dont make one!
> cheers
> Steve
>
> --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Gary Chase <garychase at live.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Gary Chase <garychase at live.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge
> Roof Still a Mystery?????
> > To: "meteoritecentral" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 12:10 PM
> >
> > Good Call.? Why waste your time on something that is
> > not a sure thing.
> >?
> > Gary
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock
> Lounge
> > Roof Still a Mystery?????
> > > To: garychase at live.com;
> > meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com;
> > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > From: mail at mhmeteorites.com
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:52:14 +0000
> > >
> > > Didn't seem worth is to me.
> > > ----------------------
> > > Matt Morgan
> > > Mile High Meteorites
> > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> > > P.O. Box 151293
> > > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gary Chase <garychase at live.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:23:13
> > > To: meteoritecentral<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock
> Lounge
> > Roof Still a Mystery
> > > ?????
> > >
> > >
> > > "Robert Ward drove through the night from Arizona
> to
> > investigate"?
> > >
> > > I don't understand. Aren't there meteorite
> dealers and
> > collectors closer to the sight to check it out? Anne?
> Matt?
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: bcmeteorites at gmail.com
> > >> To: mpg4444 at gmail.com;
> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:39:00 -0700
> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red
> Rock
> > Lounge Roof Still a Mystery
> > >>
> > >> This link is for the article on the front
> page of
> > the local Colorado Springs
> > >> paper "The Gazette" this morning with picture
> of
> > Robert Ward holding the ceiling tile with the
> > >> "mystery" hole in it.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html
> > >>
> > >> Bob Falls
> > >> colorado Springs, CO
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > >> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]On
> > Behalf Of Michael
> > >> Groetz
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46 AM
> > >> To: Meteorite List
> > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock
> Lounge
> > Roof Still a Mystery
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11755241
> > >>
> > >> Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still a Mystery
> > >>
> > >> By: Stacey Kaiser
> > >> s.kaiser at krdotv.com
> > >> Follow me on Twitter at
> > www.twitter.com/staceykaiser
> > >>
> > >> COLORADO SPRINGS - Was it lightning, some
> sort of
> > space rock, or ice
> > >> from a plane? Fire investigators cannot rule
> > anything out as the
> > >> cause of a hole in the roof of Red Rock
> Lounge at
> > 31st and Colorado
> > >> Avenue in Colorado Springs.
> > >>
> > >> "I saw some insulation sitting on the table
> and I
> > looked up and
> > >> there's a hole in my ceiling," said Red Rock
> > Lounge owner Karol
> > >> Sandvig. Sandvig noticed the hole when she
> first
> > walked into her bar,
> > >> then she saw a note from her bartender.
> "Karol, I
> > had to call the
> > >> cops because something came through the roof
> and
> > there was a loud
> > >> boom," said a note from Bartender Tammy
> Newland.
> > >>
> > >> Firefighters got the call at 11:30pm
> Wednesday.
> > They told Newland the
> > >> boom was heard from their station a few
> streets
> > away. "It scared
> > >> everybody. Everybody was off their seats
> pretty
> > quick. I don't think
> > >> I've seen some of the people in here move
> that
> > quick," said Newland.
> > >>
> > >> But the big question is, what caused this
> massive
> > boom and 3-inch hole
> > >> in the ceiling? "We tried to rule out things
> such
> > as lightning,
> > >> something falling from the sky like a piece
> of
> > space rock like a small
> > >> meteorite and we weren't able to rule out
> > anything," said Colorado
> > >> Springs Fire Department Battalion Chief
> Steven
> > Dubay.
> > >>
> > >> STORMTRACKER 13 Chief Meteorologist Matt
> Meister
> > says he was at the
> > >> station until about 1:00AM and did not see
> any
> > lightning. It could be
> > >> a space rock, but investigators have seen no
> sign
> > of a rock. And the
> > >> hole is too big to be from a bullet.
> > >>
> > >> Sandvig says the hole in her ceiling will not
> ruin
> > their New Year's
> > >> Eve celebration. The landlord said he will be
> out
> > to fix the hole.
> > >>
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