[meteorite-list] NWA 4936/5406 [was: NWA 2995]

From: Abdelaziz Alhyane <abdelaziz_alhyane_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:14:11 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <703144.57214.qm_at_web45401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hello Greg and List,
 let me correct the link :
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm
I was not talking about about 4936 and 5406, I meant the NWA material especially 2995 which was found in Missouri Morocco, NOT Algeria.
There is no mistake for 4936/5406

My best
Aziz

--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at htn.net> wrote:

> From: Greg Hupe <gmhupe at htn.net>
> Subject: NWA 4936/5406 [was: NWA 2995]
> To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <abdelaziz_alhyane at yahoo.com>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 9:47 AM
> Hello Aziz Alhyane and List,
>
> Aziz wrote:
> "Meteoritical bulletin really contains so many errors !!!!!
> just like this site http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4936.htm
> I'm sure All Moroccans can help to get every mistake about
> NWA finds/falls corrected, just ask us"
>
> Jack Schrader purchased the NWA 4936 stones and I purchased
> the paired NWA 5406 lunar stones from a Moroccan dealer
> (List member) who told us this material was found near
> Siksou Mountains in southern Morocco (Western Sahara). The
> classifying scientists were also told this same information
> by the Moroccan dealer. Here is a link to two photos of one
> of the finders provided to me, is that you Aziz?
> 1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa5406/siksou1.jpg
> 2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa5406/siksou2.jpg
>
> I was also provided an image of some of the stones next to
> a GPS with coordinates clearly visible. A Google Earth
> search places the spot south of Laayoune and SSW of Smara in
> Western Sahara.
>
> Aziz, I appreciate your wanting to correct any false
> entries in the Bulletin like the rest of us. If Jack and I
> were provided with a false find location for NWA 4936/5406,
> please let us know what you know. If we were lied to, this
> is something only concerned Moroccans like yourself can try
> to correct with your fellow countrymen. If we were provided
> with false information, please contact your local friend and
> sometime partner in Morocco, he will want to correct any
> erroneous find locations as well. 'Confusion' like this is
> why meteorites found in the Sahara desert are assigned with
> an "NWA" designation number instead of an actual name of
> where they are found, or reported as found from. There is
> simply no confidence in this data because of a variety of
> reasons (i.e. keep the site secret, the finder did not have
> GPS, etc.).
>
> Here is part of my description for NWA 5406 that tries to
> explain another problem with original distribution of NWA
> 4936/5406:
> >>
> Initially there was some confusion concerning the combined
> Total Known Weight (TKW) of pairings of NWA 4936/5406 due to
> mismanaged distribution of the original eight stones by a
> Moroccan dealer. Eventually the puzzle was put together.
> After thorough searches of the find site, it has been
> established that there are eight individual stones that
> together constitute NWA 5406 (six stones 281g) and NWA 4936
> (two complete stones 179g and one 20g type sample from one
> of the NWA 5406 stones) for a combined Total Known Weight of
> 480 grams. Two of the eight stones (179g total) were
> purchased in 2007 by a collector, who removed 20 grams from
> one of these complete stones and submitted it to a second
> scientist for classification without realizing the material
> had already been classified. Months later the two
> classifying scientists were able to piece together the
> puzzle when the final four stones were purchased, and
> another 20 grams was submitted and classified under the NWA
> 5406 designation. Luckily, all eight stones were proved to
> come from a single Moroccan dealer and/or finder then
> classified by the same scientist! In all, a combined total
> of 60.1 grams in type samples have been deposited at UWS and
> UAz.
>
> <<
>
>
>
> I hope this helps, Thank You for your concerns!
>
> Best regards,
> Greg
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane"
> <abdelaziz_alhyane at yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:48 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2995
>
>
> > Dear List Members,
> > Was the 2995 was found in Algeria? As I know, it was
> found in Missour, Morocco. Meteoritical bulletin really
> contains so many errors !!!!! just like this site http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4936.htm
> > I'm sure All Moroccans can help to get every mistake
> about NWA finds/falls corrected, just ask us
> >
> > My best
> > Aziz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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