[meteorite-list] Dr Jambons email to list on pairings

From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:08:39 -0400
Message-ID: <20100819220839.ZQFCH.520129.imail_at_fed1rmwml41>

By request, here is Dr. Jambon's email to the list.

> > > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:47:14 +0200
> > > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > From: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] PAIRINGS TO NWA 5400
> > > >
> > > > Dear List,
> > > >
> > > > I just received a message from Albert Jambon
> > > > regarding the recently debated issue of NWA 5400 and its possible
> > > pairings.
> > > > Albert contacted me (as Ensishim organizer) after
> > > > several unfruitful attempts and asked me to send
> > > > this message (below) to the list.
> > > >
> > > > I know that forwarding someone else's message
> > > > does not really meet the meteorite list policy
> > > > but thought that Albert, who was often cited
> > > > and/or called in this effervescent discussion,
> > > > should have the right of answering the concerned
> > > > protagonists and present his statement about an
> > > > issue (NWA 4500 pairings) wherein he has been fully involved.
> > > > I hope the list moderator would allow this post to go.
> > > >
> > > > Zelimir
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Now it's enough.
> > > >
> > > > I have been out of my office for fieldwork with
> > > > my students and a friend of mine draw my attention to this mess.
> > > > Now I am back.
> > > >
> > > > Original scientific information does not have to
> > > > go to the list first but rather to The Nom. Com. and scientific
> > > publications.
> > > > Description of NWA 5363 has been submitted since a long time but not yet
> > > voted.
> > > > However, the situation is such that it appears
> > > > better to release some information.
> > > > NWA 5400 is undoubtedly paired with NWA 5363!
> > > >
> > > > I received a sample from Mbarek Ait el Caid in February 2008.
> > > > I received a second sample from another stone in
> > > > May of the same year, again from Mbarek.
> > > > I had additional samples from American collectors as well.
> > > >
> > > > Copies of my private mails that were posted on
> > > > this list are authentic (but not the translation).
> > > >
> > > > NWA 5363 was submitted with a TKW of 2455g.
> > > > The second stone has a TKW of 5530 g.
> > > > As for the others I just don't know.
> > > >
> > > > If you want more scientific information, go to the Met. Bull. database.
> > > >
> > > > When you know nothing just keep silent.
> > > >
> > > > And now according to Greg's writing :
> > > > "I welcome any pairings to NWA 5400, the
> > > > Earth-Related Meteorite! The more the better for all of us."
> > > >
> > > > I have been insulted.
> > > > My Moroccan partners have been insulted too.
> > > > We all wait for apology.
> > > >
> > > > Albert Jambon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > Thanks Carl
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carl or Debbie Esparza
> > Meteoritemax
> >
> >
> > ---- kai ke <torontokai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I am confused by your post. You memtioned that 5363 is 5400 paired.
> > > But NWA5400 is a brachnite like but not a brachnite due to its
> > > terrestial osotope. It is a terrestial meteorite or ungrouped. To be a
> > > brachnite and nwa5400 paired is a contradiction to me. Anyway I cannot
> > > find the 5363 on meteotitical bulletin.
> > >
> > > Just post my thinking for your consideration.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kai
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