[meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

From: Mark Bowling <minador_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:34:53 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <986088.67969.qm_at_web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Yeah Erik, you can get a feel for a few things, but you'll still spend a ton of time digging trash. Small unweathered iron targets don't usually show up as iron on the GMT. I've used it a lot to hunt parks. Several in my group tried to do it, but we could never really distinguish between coins, aluminum pull tabs, steel bottle caps, and other common trash items with any degree of success. Once I got the DFX, I almost kicked myself for waiting so long...

I have no field experience with a PI, but my view is that they use them in Australia for a reason. If I were to go nugget hunting there, I'd use what the locals use. I'd leave my Whites at home and get a Minelab (I have an old vlf model from in the mid 90's which worked pretty good).

But don't get me wrong, I know some detectorists who dig everything at parks, it's the only way to ensure you get all the jewelry. And there are so many strange things lost, some valuable, so if you have the time, it's fun to dig everything. I have limited time so I cherry pick as much as I can.

I just think that if Dean lives in a city, and only hunt meteorites 1 or 2 times a year, a coin machine will provide more enjoyment. I imagine a coin machine would do fine for normal sized meteorite targets, but I know that tiny gold will go unnoticed.

Happy hunting and happy Thanksgiving everybody!!
Mark B.
Vail, Az
IMCA 6645


--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Erik Fisler <erikfwebb at msn.com> wrote:

> From: Erik Fisler <erikfwebb at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
> To: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 2:49 AM
>
> In city conditions there is too much interference for a
> pulse detector anyway.
>
> Mark, I'm not sure about other VLF detectors but I do know
> that my GMT has a iron discriminator which tells me how much
> iron is in the target.? The other problem with gold
> machines in the city is all the aluminum but on my GMT
> aluminum makes such a sharp high frequency sound that I can
> tell right away it's aluminum.
> At Franconia I know almost immediately if I've swung my
> detector over an aluminum bullet.
> The discriminator switch on the GMT is great for Franconia
> because the Sacramento Wash 005's make a zip-zip sound, the
> basalt makes a grunt-grunt sound and meteorites make a
> zip-grunt sound.
>
> I also have a 6" by 8" coil for weeding through areas of
> high trash.
>
> [Erik]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0800
> > From: minador at yahoo.com
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
> >
> > Hi Erik and List,
> >
> > A gold machine can find all targets. But without a
> discriminating coin machine, you have to dig each target to
> find out what it is (be it foil, pull tabs, nails, etc.). If
> you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean the
> difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with
> a GMT (with a lot more junk recovered).
> >
> > While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I
> know will leave the coin machine at home.
> >
> > Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you
> would probably be best served with a coin machine as there
> are a lot of sites within easy reach. Since I bought a coin
> machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the
> gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day
> trip. I can fill a hours time now (or even less) and find
> some coins/jewelry.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler? wrote:
> >
> >> From: Erik Fisler
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector
> Question
> >> To: "meteorite-list"
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM
> >>
> >> A good gold machine can find coins,? a good
> coin machine
> >> can't necessarily find gold.
> >> White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are
> great,
> >> Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT,
> >> and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great!
> >> or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and
> buy some
> >> really expensive
> >> detectors that are HOOTTTT on gold and meteorites
> but have
> >> tons of interference and pinpointing issues...
> >>
> >>
> >> I can take my GMT to the park and it's like
> shooting fish
> >> in a barrel...
> >>
> >> depends on if you are looking for small targets
> with low
> >> metal,
> >> or deep metal targets...
> >>
> >> happy hunting!
> >>
> >> [Erik]
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800
> >>> From: minador at yahoo.com
> >>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector
> Question
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dean,
> >>>
> >>> I would draw a line between gold (&
> meteorites)
> >> and coins.? A machine for all around hunting
> usually
> >> lowers the performance of the machine in those
> different
> >> styles of hunting.? So many detectorists
> choose to own
> >> 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for
> coins).
> >>>
> >>> For hunting gold in Australia I would go with
> the
> >> Minelab because they were developed in Australia
> in order to
> >> combat their heavily mineralized ground.
> >>>
> >>> They also make good coin machines.? They
> may have
> >> a multi-use machine that does a good
> >> job.???The newer multi-frequency
> machines
> >> would be something to look at.? But again, 2
> machines
> >> is better.? Having a deep seeking gold
> machine, along
> >> with a coin machine better suited to finding
> shallow, small
> >> targets would increase the probability of
> success.
> >>>
> >>> I'm in the states and my Whites serves me
> well.
> >> I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but
> I always
> >> put it down and use my dedicated gold machine
> instead.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck,
> >>>
> >>> Mark B.
> >>> Vail, AZ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: dean bessey
> >>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector
> Question
> >>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM
> >>>> If somebody was wanting a metal
> >>>> detector with plans to use it searching
> for
> >> meteorites, gold
> >>>> nuggets and coins in Australia what would
> be the
> >> best metal
> >>>> detector to get?
> >>>> What things in general does one look for
> in buying
> >> a metal
> >>>> detector?
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> DEAN
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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