[meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

From: dave carothers <carothersdl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:42:15 -0500
Message-ID: <CB3A6A3CCF284492A98D54555657F48E_at_your291etg47cr>

Howard,

Your comment is moronic. This group is as much about posting information to
assist "newbies" as anything else. You should know better.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Steffic" <bencubbin at hotmail.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD
HORSEIs toMorocco


>
> Is anyone else getting tired of this moronic discussion?
>
> I laugh at how the "newbies" expect the veterans with the battle scars to
> tell them exacty how to .... Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send
> money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork.
>
> Now lets give this thread a proper burrial and get back to meteorites.
> Didn't someone actually find something (like a meteorite not an alien)
> that we can talk about?
>
> Howard Steffic
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0800
>> From: abdelaziz_alhyane at yahoo.com
>> To: spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;
>> searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada
>> toMorocco
>>
>> Hello Brian and all,
>> MoneyGram is available in Morocco, and Abdellah is a good person five
>> stars in honesty and trust.
>> My best
>> Aziz
>>
>> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada
>>> toMorocco
>>> To: "Melanie Matthews" <spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com>,
>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM
>>> Hi Melanie,
>>>
>>> I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in
>>> touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your
>>> postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and
>>> he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new
>>> meteorites.
>>>
>>> I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some
>>> really great and rare meteorites in the group.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Matthews"
>>> <spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>;
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments
>>> from Canada toMorocco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Brian, listers.
>>> Actually it was a postal money order that I
>>> mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it
>>> included the cost
>>> of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail
>>> it back to
>>> me and he said he did.
>>>
>>> Once I get the slip back I'm going to
>>> get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to
>>> him -
>>> probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites
>>> (all
>>> unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all
>>> that I circled
>>> some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program
>>> similar to
>>> MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to
>>> him and
>>> kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I
>>> picked sitting
>>> on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the
>>> prices
>>> until I made the final decition on buying five rocks
>>> together weighing
>>> 837 grams..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him
>>> and I thank all here on the list for their
>>> input/suggestions!
>>>
>>> -----------
>>> Melanie
>>> IMCA: 2975
>>> eBay: metmel2775
>>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
>>>
>>> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you
>>> never know what you're gonna get!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>> From: searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net
>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send
>>> payments from Canada to Morocco
>>>>
>>>> Hello Melanie and list,
>>>>
>>>> In regards to your question of sending payments to
>>> Morocco, I have to ask a
>>>> couple of questions and others also mentioned they
>>> weren't clear on your
>>>> question since you didn't seem to be including
>>> shipping costs. I'd like to
>>>> help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful
>>> and kindest way
>>>> possible, so please don't take it negatively or have
>>> any anger towards me.
>>>> Make sure you include shipping costs when you were
>>> determining the total
>>>> amount of the payment you need to send to the seller
>>> and then send a check
>>>> and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping
>>> costs if that is what
>>>> you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this
>>> in the past about not
>>>> having money to pay for something or to pay for the
>>> shipping costs. It's
>>>> good to ask for help if you are not experienced in
>>> sending payments outside
>>>> of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided
>>> to send a check for
>>>> the meteorites and then were going to decide about a
>>> payment for the
>>>> "shipping" as a separate payment or to pay for
>>> shipping later on. Is this
>>>> why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping
>>> costs after you had
>>>> sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't
>>> sound right why you
>>>> wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller
>>> for the items with
>>>> shipping and or insurance and then send one payment
>>> and later decide you
>>>> couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you stated you sent a "Paper Check" which, as I
>>> am thinking is a
>>>> "personal check" from your personal Canadian bank
>>> account by what you wrote.
>>>> I'm confused to why would you think that a personal
>>> check from your Canadian
>>>> bank account would be "valid" as you say, to a dealer
>>> in Morocco, which I am
>>>> sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your
>>> account, but most
>>>> likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other
>>> country? You don't
>>>> often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for
>>> the most part any
>>>> dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South
>>> America or Australia that
>>>> would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a
>>> different country,
>>>> although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank
>>> account or from a U.S.
>>>> bank account or any personal paper check from any
>>> other country most likely
>>>> won't be accepted unless they verified with their bank
>>> first that they could
>>>> accept that check. An example would be if there was
>>> Citibank in Canada and
>>>> then Citibank in the U.S. would accept that check or
>>> Citibank in England,
>>>> etc. .I'm sure if the check was from a bank that had a
>>> branch in that
>>>> country that it would be accepted, but it usually
>>> creates a hassle and is
>>>> time consuming to stand in line or through an ATM. As
>>> several members
>>>> mentioned bank wire is the safest and then probably
>>> FedEx payment, but
>>>> sending a paper check or money order isn't a good idea
>>> as Gary mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to offer a friendly suggestion to help
>>> you out. Please make
>>>> sure you discuss all the facts and figures with any
>>> dealer/collector
>>>> anywhere in the world before closing a deal. Remember
>>> you are entering a
>>>> contract with this dealer, whether it is on ebay or
>>> through their website or
>>>> through correspondence with the dealer. On ebay this
>>> is stated as you are
>>>> entering a contract so be mindful of this. You need to
>>> finalize all costs.
>>>> You need to get the full amount that you owe in
>>> writing, email, etc. for the
>>>> meteorites and any insurance and shipping and then you
>>> need to first discuss
>>>> the method of payment to that dealer before you send
>>> any payment. I think
>>>> your first mistake here was that it sounds as if you
>>> didn't determine the
>>>> full costs of the meteorites with shipping, then you
>>> didn't ask the seller
>>>> if he or she would accept a "Personal Paper Check from
>>> another country. I
>>>> think you will have much better luck and increase good
>>> relations with
>>>> dealers through online sales, ebay and through the
>>> different meteorite lists
>>>> you if you slow down and get the facts before making
>>> purchases and payments.
>>>>
>>>> As you have written on your posts the equivalent of
>>> The Tom Hanks character
>>>> from the Forest Gump movie, "Life is like a box of
>>> chocolates." You need
>>>> to stop and think that your eyes are bigger than your
>>> stomach and stop and
>>>> think of what you are wanting to bid on or buy first
>>> and how to pay for it.
>>>> There is an old saying in America that you may or may
>>> not know in Canada.
>>>> "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" which roughly
>>> means you saw the
>>>> food on the menu and you ordered all that looked good
>>> to eat, but your
>>>> stomach wasn't big enough to eat it all and you became
>>> very full before you
>>>> could finish the meal. This is the same as the child
>>> that fills their plate
>>>> up and can't eat it all at home. This also goes along
>>> with shopping at the
>>>> store when you are hungry and buying too much, as in
>>> buying more goodies
>>>> than you needed. In this case looking at meteorites
>>> you want to buy and then
>>>> not carefully researching making a payment and then
>>> feeling full of
>>>> frustration and aggravation at how to make the payment
>>> or what road to go
>>>> down. I truly hope this helps in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>> Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer
>>> for a lot of
>>>> chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he
>>> told me that the banks
>>>> over there don't recognize it even though it is
>>> completely valid. I can't
>>>> afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I
>>> want - which will be
>>>> over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options
>>> do you suggest?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>> Melanie
>>>> IMCA: 2975
>>>> eBay: metmel2775
>>>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
>>>>
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