[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

From: Ted Bunch <tbear1_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:46:07 -0700
Message-ID: <C6359B6F.BBC0%tbear1_at_cableone.net>

Dear List - Greg C. has supplied a sample for classification. Although the
sample looks like a lunar on first impression, Tony Irving and I will do the
classification and answer the question as to whether it is truly lunar or a
wannabe.

Ted Bunch


On 5/17/09 9:48 AM, "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I understand that. I have already taken the steps to get it checked out.
> The first thing I did once I got it was to contact Ted Bunch.
>
> Perhaps my post was a bit harsh, but some of the emails I have gotten made me
> feel like people are pissed that I am selling it cheaper then others want me
> to.
>
> Greg C.
>
> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
>> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 12:27 PM
>>
>> This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything
>> to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature
>> assignment, TKW figures, science and collector
>> confidence.? Just because a Moroccan dealer says
>> something is a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask
>> the buyers who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the
>> year before. There have been some very convincing
>> lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best.
>> There was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed
>> something was lunar before running all of the tests and it
>> turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the
>> material after being in a hurry to put it on the
>> market.? ? ?
>>
>> To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the
>> top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the
>> article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine
>> stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate
>> Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction
>> of its cost if the find location and history are not known.
>>
>> Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has
>> happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings.?
>> One well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who
>> stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly
>> objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our
>> stones so he sent a piece in for study.? It turned out
>> to be a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost
>> lost to science.
>>
>> I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the
>> same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights have
>> been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a
>> shame to lose control.?
>>
>> I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar
>> material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the
>> Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name
>> assignment.? It would demonstrate proper respect for
>> some of the world's rarest material.? Anything less is
>> a disservice. Dealers are not allowed to rate their own
>> diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are much
>> more rare be any different?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Adam
>> ???
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for
>> sale
>>> To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM
>>> Be careful Greg, now that you are
>>> offering planetaries at reasonable
>>> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by
>> the
>>> big guys -
>>> then they will start stabbing you in the back.?
>> Those
>>> who are driven
>>> by money are threatened by those like us who don't
>> give a
>>> crap about
>>> profits. ;)
>>>
>>> Nice lunar.? If I wasn't already sitting on my fair
>>> share of lunars,
>>> I'd buy a piece.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from
>> you.
>>> Anyone who claims I did,
>>>> I invite them post the email where I made that
>>> claim...
>>>>
>>>> I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to
>> Tony
>>> Irving and the test
>>>> results will speak for themselves as to what this
>> is -
>>> however Im sure
>>>> anyone can see the picture of what I have:
>>>> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg
>>>> and compare it with this:
>>>> http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I want to state for the record, I am selling this
>> for
>>> less becouse I dont
>>>> need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell
>>> meteorites to make a living,
>>>> pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help
>> increase
>>> my personal
>>>> collection.
>>>> I know what I paid for this and if the others who
>> have
>>> this paid anywhere
>>>> close to what I did, they could sell it for half
>> what
>>> they do and still
>>>> triple the money they put into it - even with
>> cutting
>>> loss.
>>>>
>>>> I know who I got it from is honest and reliable
>> as for
>>> the authenticity.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is
>> done,
>>> but when it is, I will
>>>> sell it for well under $1,200 per gram...
>>>>
>>>> Greg C.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale
>>>>> To: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Cc: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
>>>>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> hi greg
>>>>> this material? is not from me ,? however
>>> it looks like
>>>>> the monzoggabro,
>>>>> but i m not sur is it isone from photo
>>>>>
>>>>> aziz
>>>>> ? habibi aziz
>>>>> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco
>>>>> phone. 21235576145
>>>>> fax.21235576170</font>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>> .........................................................
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