[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:36:49 -0400
Message-ID: <e51421550905170936g747bb533nffee59d003019146_at_mail.gmail.com>

"There have been some very convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have
fooled some of the best. "

And there are some convincing lunar-looking eucrites that the best
have fooled the rest of us with. ;)

Some of them are so convincing that they are lunars, right? ;)

The Moroccans are no more or less trustworthy than any other
nationality - including Americans.

I know the score now. Others do also. That's all I am going to say
in public about it.


On 5/17/09, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything to do with proper
> chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science
> and collector confidence. Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is
> a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers who got ripped
> off in Tucson this year and the year before. There have been some very
> convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. There
> was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar
> before running all of the tests and it turned out to be a Eucrite. Many
> dealers had to recall the material after being in a hurry to put it on the
> market.
>
> To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the top of the
> meteorite collectibles chain every since the article, "Mining for
> Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine stated so. Only advanced mineral
> collections incorporate Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a
> fraction of its cost if the find location and history are not known.
>
> Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has happened with
> Martian meteorites and self-pairings. One well-known dealer purchased
> material from a Moroccan who stated it was paired to one of our stones. We
> publicly objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our stones
> so he sent a piece in for study. It turned out to be a completely new
> Martian meteorite that was almost lost to science.
>
> I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the same as some
> Martian meteorites. Total known weights have been carefully recorded to this
> point and it would be a shame to lose control.
>
> I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar material, have it
> Laboratory confirmed and pass the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature
> Committee for name assignment. It would demonstrate proper respect for some
> of the world's rarest material. Anything less is a disservice. Dealers are
> not allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins so why should meteorites
> that are much more rare be any different?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale
>> To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM
>> Be careful Greg, now that you are
>> offering planetaries at reasonable
>> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the
>> big guys -
>> then they will start stabbing you in the back. Those
>> who are driven
>> by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a
>> crap about
>> profits. ;)
>>
>> Nice lunar. If I wasn't already sitting on my fair
>> share of lunars,
>> I'd buy a piece.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you.
>> Anyone who claims I did,
>> > I invite them post the email where I made that
>> claim...
>> >
>> > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony
>> Irving and the test
>> > results will speak for themselves as to what this is -
>> however Im sure
>> > anyone can see the picture of what I have:
>> > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg
>> > and compare it with this:
>> > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg
>> >
>> > I want to state for the record, I am selling this for
>> less becouse I dont
>> > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell
>> meteorites to make a living,
>> > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase
>> my personal
>> > collection.
>> > I know what I paid for this and if the others who have
>> this paid anywhere
>> > close to what I did, they could sell it for half what
>> they do and still
>> > triple the money they put into it - even with cutting
>> loss.
>> >
>> > I know who I got it from is honest and reliable as for
>> the authenticity.
>> >
>> > That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is done,
>> but when it is, I will
>> > sell it for well under $1,200 per gram...
>> >
>> > Greg C.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>
>> >> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale
>> >> To: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> >> Cc: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
>> >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM
>> >>
>> >> hi greg
>> >> this material is not from me , however
>> it looks like
>> >> the monzoggabro,
>> >> but i m not sur is it isone from photo
>> >>
>> >> aziz
>> >> habibi aziz
>> >> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco
>> >> phone. 21235576145
>> >> fax.21235576170</font>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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