[meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative secret searchers ?

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:30:03 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <801192.40001.qm_at_web110604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Not asking for the coordinates, just number of stones and weight.
You already provided, as have most, thanks for that, much appreciated.

By the way Rob, I had the pleasure of hunting all day with Hopper again, as I have many times since day one, and I found a perfect oriented meteorite with Hopper in tow.
That is sure one lovable mutt!
Michael Farmer

--- On Tue, 3/10/09, Rob Wesel <rob at nakhladogmeteorites.com> wrote:

> From: Rob Wesel <rob at nakhladogmeteorites.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative secret searchers ?
> To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>, "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, "Notkin" <geoking at notkin.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 10:14 PM
> Hi guys
>
> I did report my totals and weights and I look forward to
> sharing coordinate data when all the members of our team
> agree we have completed searching the coordinate areas. We
> have folks still going back and forth. The data will be
> shared, but not at the cost of those with whom I owe the
> finds to. So, if the MAPS article or Meteorite Magazine
> article have to be this week, they will be short my data. I
> doubt anything I have is going to shed much unforeseen light
> as far as changing the distribution ellipse but I WILL share
> the data, worry not. If you have to publish right away then
> anticipate someone else producing the revised edition. It's
> been three weeks, to publish the known strewnfield at this
> moment is myopic.
>
> Rob Wesel
> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> "Notkin" <geoking at notkin.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative
> secret searchers ?
>
>
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > Perhaps you are mistaken in you assumptions.
> > I along with Robert Woolard asked for that data at
> first so that the article in Meteorite Magazine could be
> written with as much up-to-date information as possible as
> we were on an extremely tight time limit.
> > We got no response from several people, and merely
> asked several times. I have all data from the people I was
> working with, and as I said earlier, there was no need to
> provide daily additions until we are finished hunting. I saw
> 5 more stones found today, I found one of them. The people I
> named were already gone from the field so their totals would
> be final or nearly so.
> >
> > As far as "Teddy" goes. I am a little interested how a
> person who is absolutely unknown, and who has never posted a
> single post to the list suddenly came to be 48 hours ago and
> is now the point man for West field work. Using a GMAIL
> account and appearing out of nowhere and getting all of the
> West data yet nobody knows who he is makes me wonder a few
> things.
> >
> > "Teddy" email me your phone number so we can chat, I
> would like to know who I am reporting data to.
> >
> > I am working on this map, I have about 60% of the
> known stones and to add your crew's stones would assist not
> me, but science.
> > So please let me know the totals if possible or they
> will not be included.
> > There is no problem here, no need to argue over this.
> Everyone seems to be extremely successful and almost
> everyone who came found meteorites. Let's finish it up and
> get the data assembled in the best way possible.
> > Michael Farmer
> >
> > Still in the field, but it looks like heavy rain
> starting tonight.
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Notkin <geoking at notkin.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Notkin <geoking at notkin.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] who were the
> uncooperative secret searchers ?
> >> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 9:40 AM
> >> Michael Farmer wrote:
> >>
> >> > Steve Arnold Notkin
> >> > Thompson Phillips wesel
> >> > All are refusing to share a scrap of data
> >> > Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike:
> >>
> >> I suggest you get your facts straight before you
> start
> >> accusing my team mates of anything.
> >>
> >> Rob Wesel, Patrick Thompson, Ruben Garica, Jason
> Philips,
> >> Mike Miller, Steve Arnold, John Sinclair and
> myself have all
> >> already provided our find numbers and weights to
> Teddy. I'm
> >> sure other numbers will be forthcoming when the
> finders are
> >> comfortable with it.
> >>
> >> As mentioned earlier on the List, we took several
> guys out
> >> with us who found their first meteorite on this
> trip. We
> >> also hunted with some of our gracious landowners
> and showed
> >> them how to find meteorites on their own property,
> and asked
> >> them to let us know if they turned up anything in
> future. As
> >> such, I will not have the great group of people I
> was
> >> hunting with portrayed on the List as
> "uncooperative secret
> >> searchers." I notice that your team members Robert
> and
> >> Shauna did not have their totals posted on Teddy's
> list.
> >> Maybe you could devote your energy to collecting
> data from
> >> your own people before complaining about anyone
> else.
> >>
> >> It's excellent that detailed find data is being
> compiled on
> >> this fall. This may be the most accurate
> strewnfield data
> >> collected in the US since Jim Kriegh, Twink
> Monrad, John
> >> Blennert and friends mapped Gold Basin in the
> 1990s. And it
> >> would be even better if we could get along while
> doing it,
> >> without pointing fingers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Geoff N.
> >>
> >> www.aerolite.org
> >> www.meteoriteblog.org
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