[meteorite-list] A question?????

From: Mexicodoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:34:00 -0400
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Dr. Grossman wrote:

"I think most scientists would call it a terrestrial meteorite, or
perhaps a terran meteorite."

Hi Jeff,

Definitely those are viable options, though I think this subject would
spark more debate than Pluto, Plutonian and Plutonic in these extended
circles if it ever had a type specimen.

I think the name "TELLURIAN", the adjective (From TELLUS[Earth]) might
be another option, and perhaps more harmonic.

Given the confusion and stigma with "terrestrial" in meteoritics
frequently being used to describe meteorwrongs, I think this third
choice could be considered on equal footing without having the baggage.
Do I recall many scientists objecting for example to the useage of
"plutonic" as an adjective for Plutoness?

Utilizing Mars as an example and considering the name of the planet
"Terra" is more based in science fiction of some authors these days
rather than "Terra Mater", the Roman goddess. As for Terran, it sounds
a bit far fetched to me, but hey...
For meteorite collectors who will no doubt be the first to collect
these so far legendary things, it seems our examples:

martian meteorite (martian for short)
lunar meteorite (lunar for short, ocassionally the throat-twisting
lunaite)
...why not:
tellurian meteorite (tellurian for short)

Tellus, the equivalent Roman Earth goddess as Terra Mater, which
further rounds out the Earth-panteon of Roman possibilities, seems
almost a natural option
 and probably just slipped your list.

I didn't mention tellurite since there is already a mineral named this
with a cool blue subadamantine sheen...chemists (who as we know
generally don't get no respect from geologists) that discovered the
metallic element opted for Tellurium to name it after Earth, of course,
for similar considerations we have now, and probably too avoid
confusion with terrariums, those fish tanks filled with dirt.
Ironically, Earth's crust is astonishingly poor in this element, vs.
meteorites and the cosmos in general. Well, they were chemists after
all. So "Terran meteorite" might have an edge here is you like to say
Terraite three times fast. (If someone likes tongue-twisters, how
about, five times fast, "Terr's Tertiary temper terrified Terry the
teary Terran from Tetroe." got to roll the rr's ad pronounce it
Tee-troe.

Anway, tellurian and terran sounds like great candidates to me.
Considering the hard sound of Terran, which sounds a lot like "dirt"
(real dumb joke alert) and might give us customs problems when we get
our space faring passports or ship meteorites around the Solar system,
not to mention hurt meteorite dealers' sales...

In any case, I'll wait for the first guy who breaks the myth and
recovers material for science to Tellus what to call it. (oops, never
hear the end of that one)

Hoping to escape this heat and join the Telluridian Festivarians for
the Solstice,
Doug
 (chemist)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Grossman <jgrossman at usgs.gov>
Sent: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 5:12 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A question?????


I think most scientists would call it a terrestrial meteorite, or
perhaps a terran meteorite.?
?
jeff?
?
Pete Shugar at clearwire.net wrote:?
> We have the Martian type meteorite, and we have the?
> Lunar meteorite and last, the asteroid 4Vesta meteorite.?
> These we know where they come from.?
>?
> Now the question---given enough energy, can a meteorite?
> hit earth and eject debris which (maybe) land on the moon?
> or Mars? What would we call such a meteorite---Earthoid,?
> or maybe Earthite??
> Just contemplating my navel here.?
> Pete?
>?
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